Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trojan Bore (REVIEW: Troy devoid of any notion of honor, destiny, gods, or reason to see it)
NY Post ^ | May 14, 2004 | Jonathan Foreman

Posted on 05/14/2004 10:33:59 AM PDT by dead

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-114 last
To: dead

I saw th emovie last night and found it quite entertaining. It bore little resemblance to the Illiad, but was worth the $9.00.


101 posted on 05/16/2004 8:43:00 AM PDT by Natural Law
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dead
But, in general, "Troy" fails to arouse strong emotion of any kind.

I saw it and agree with this review. The Greeks and Trojans were all about Thymos/thumos or spiritedness which was at the core of life.

102 posted on 05/16/2004 8:50:30 AM PDT by Helms (Jesse Jackson has been unsuccessfully successful)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dead

No idea if it is on video/DVD, but a few months ago one of the cable networks (I think USA) ran a "Helen of Troy" miniseries that was actually quite watchable.

Only recognized Rufus Sewell (the greatest movie villian of my generation) as Aggamenon and "Salah" from "Indiana Jones" as Priam, but the unknowns were decent. At four hours, it began to do justice to the story, though the ending is rushedm, and it handles the gods well, without actually showing them like in "Clash of the Titans." Worth trying to find if you're into this sort of thing.


103 posted on 05/16/2004 8:51:59 AM PDT by Schuck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dead
"In this version of the story, the war to rescue stolen Helen takes a few days rather than 10 years, Menelaus is killed at the beginning of the war, Achilles lives to hide in the Trojan horse, and Paris and Andromache survive the fall of Troy. "

Well, this causes me real problems. Despite the poor reviews, I had hoped to see the film and enjoy it for whatever was there to take from it. Based on this butchery though, I just can't see going.
104 posted on 05/16/2004 8:53:54 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cicero
I" thought the Odyssey was a lousy movie too."

3200 years ago was before the dawn of the Modern Mind. This movie does not convey much of the true mentality of these Presocratic Greeks and Trojans. Their mentality was way different than than the movie portrayed. Way more guttural, more spiritedness and yes they saw Gods everywhere and the movie does not adequately portray this.

105 posted on 05/16/2004 9:06:45 AM PDT by Helms (Jesse Jackson has been unsuccessfully successful)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: dead; Bacon Man
Brian Cox goes so far over the top as a thoroughly evil Agamemnon that you wonder if he isn't deliberately sabotaging the movie.

That's kinda surprising. Cox was superb as a (literally) haunted father in The Ring, amazing as King Lear, and hilarious in Super Troopers. He even played Hannibal Lecter in Manhunter and made Anthony Hopkins look like a piker. He's not known for scenery-chewing except when he does broad comedy.


106 posted on 05/16/2004 2:20:31 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Squantos; socal_parrot; dead

Mr. Pitt's lovely little ensemble bears a stunning resemblance to what my character Xen wore my first year at Renfest.


107 posted on 05/16/2004 2:22:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Xenalyte

Cox was even a good villain in Chain Reaction.

Also a good villain in X-Men 2.

And the father in the Rookie(not a villain, but flawed character who was not the best dad)


108 posted on 05/16/2004 2:27:07 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Islam!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: Skywalk

I've liked Cox in whatever I've seen him in. He's a chameleon actor - he can make himself into a character so utterly that you forget you ever saw him in anything else.


109 posted on 05/16/2004 2:30:57 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies]

To: Skywalk

I guess I'm still stuck in the 1930s; I was born 40 years too late. It looked great to me, and I didn't hear any laughs at the previews. Most of my friends (SF geeks like me) think it looks pretty cool.
Guess I'm just outta touch.


110 posted on 05/17/2004 6:15:01 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Skywalk

Heck, I still like the Biggles books (Biggles learns to fly, The Camels are coming, Biggles goes East, etc.). No wonder Sky Captain looks good to me...


111 posted on 05/17/2004 6:17:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: SoCal Pubbie
Well, this causes me real problems.

In the sequel, Aeneas decides to stay in Africa with Dido - to Hell with Italy!

112 posted on 05/17/2004 6:22:08 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: keithtoo
Maximus was one of Marcus Aurelius' friends and inspirations. In book one of Meditations, Aurelius describes Maximus this way:

From Maximus I learned self-government, and not to be led aside by anything; and cheerfulness in all circumstances, as well as in illness; and a just admixture in the moral character of sweetness and dignity, and to do what was set before me without complaining. I observed that everybody believed that he thought as he spoke, and that in all that he did he never had any bad intention; and he never showed amazement and surprise, and was never in a hurry, and never put off doing a thing, nor was perplexed nor dejected, nor did he ever laugh to disguise his vexation, nor, on the other hand, was he ever passionate or suspicious. He was accustomed to do acts of beneficence, and was ready to forgive, and was free from all falsehood; and he presented the appearance of a man who could not be diverted from right rather than of a man who had been improved. I observed, too, that no man could ever think that he was despised by Maximus, or ever venture to think himself a better man. He had also the art of being humorous in an agreeable way.

113 posted on 05/17/2004 6:34:11 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: nina0113
There is still "Fire at the Gates" about Thermopylae
114 posted on 05/17/2004 1:06:27 PM PDT by Dead Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-114 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson