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Defiant Tax Protester Gets Seven Year Sentence
Star Telegram.com ^ | 4-30-04 | Toni Heinzl

Posted on 04/30/2004 7:39:02 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser

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To: VRWC_minion
You seem to making an assumption beyond what the words say.
"Tax Imposed" and then it talks about filing requirements for married people.
I am not saying the law doesn't exist and I pay my taxes. I don't see it in this citation. Maybe I am the one needing glasses
81 posted on 04/30/2004 9:49:30 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
Read reg 1.
82 posted on 04/30/2004 10:00:44 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Abcdefg
In the meantime, one of the ways to intepret law is to determine the words have an alternative meaning than the one commonly understood. In as much as 99.9% of the people who read section 1 understand that it imposes a tax on people and determines the rates to apply, what other meaning does it have for the flag fringe group ?
83 posted on 04/30/2004 10:08:09 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Abcdefg
TITLE 26--INTERNAL REVENUE

CHAPTER I--INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

PART 1--INCOME TAXES--Table of Contents

Sec. 1.1-1 Income tax on individuals.

(a) General rule. (1) Section 1 of the Code imposes an income tax on
the income of every individual who is a citizen or resident of the
United States and, to the extent provided by section 871(b) or 877(b),
on the income of a nonresident alien individual
84 posted on 04/30/2004 10:11:21 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
(b) Citizens or residents of the United States liable to tax.

In
general, all citizens of the United States, wherever resident, and all
resident alien individuals are liable to the income taxes imposed by the
Code whether the income is received from sources within or without the
United States. Pursuant to section 876, a nonresident alien individual
who is a bona fide resident of Puerto Rico during the entire taxable
year is, except as provided in section 933 with respect to Puerto Rican
source income, subject to taxation in the same manner as a resident
alien individual. As to tax on nonresident alien individuals, see
sections 871 and 877.


(c) Who is a citizen.

Every person born or naturalized in the United
States and subject to its jurisdiction is a citizen. For other rules
governing the acquisition of citizenship, see chapters 1 and 2 of title
III of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401-1459). For
rules governing loss of citizenship, see sections 349 to 357, inclusive,
of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1481-1489), Schneider v. Rusk, (1964) 377 U.S.
163, and Rev. Rul. 70-506, C.B. 1970-2, 1. For rules pertaining to
persons who are nationals but not citizens at birth, e.g., a person born
in American Samoa, see section 308 of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1408). For
special rules applicable to certain expatriates who have lost
citizenship with a principal purpose of avoiding certain taxes, see
section 877. A foreigner who has filed his declaration of intention of
becoming a citizen but who has not yet been admitted to citizenship by a
final order of a naturalization court is an alien.

85 posted on 04/30/2004 10:12:44 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
I can't speak for those people, so don't assume I can or that I am one of them.
Where is regulation 1.1? what section is it in, or can you just cut to the chase and post it?
86 posted on 04/30/2004 10:13:13 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: VRWC_minion
I posted too soon, thanks for putting the cite out there for me. Works for me.
87 posted on 04/30/2004 10:15:57 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

Maybe I am the one needing glasses

Perhaps you are, I'd get it taken care of, if I were you:

Refer to reply #53 again, specifically the excerpt of the Melton case, and use the hyperlinks provided to read the text of the tax code sections if necessary, not just the section headers and labels.

Along with the requirement to file:

  • section 6012 provides that every individual having gross income that equals or exceeds the exemption amount in a taxable year shall file an income tax return.
    26 U.S.C. s 6012.
  • Makes you liable to pay tax due.

    If necessary we will go into the terms gross & taxable income covered in the statutes as well.

    However you may be assured the Supreme Court definitely includes your wages and salaries and any compensation earned within the boundries of what is taxable by statutes enacted by the Congress.

    Lucas v. Earl(1930), 281 U.S. 111:

     

    Charles C. Stewart Machine Co. v. Davis (1937), 301 U.S. 548:

    House Congressional Record, March 27, 1943, pg. 2580:


    88 posted on 04/30/2004 10:17:33 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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    To: ancient_geezer
    Thanks for your patience. I clearly see that the requirement is in the code.
    89 posted on 04/30/2004 10:22:19 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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    To: VRWC_minion
    The Code of Federal Regulations contains the text of public regulations issued by the agencies of the Federal government. Proposed regulations and regulations issued so recently that they are not yet in the Code of Federal Regulations database, may be found in the Federal Register.

    The Code of Federal Regulations does not include statutes enacted by Congress, decisions of the Federal courts, or treaties. Statutes enacted by Congress are available, for the most part, in the United States Code. Some of the decisions of the Federal courts (particularly recent decisions) are available through the Federal Court Decisions and Rules page of the U.S. House of Representatives Internet Law Library. A collection of treaties is also available through the Treaties and International Law page of the Internet Law Library.

    For a regulation contained in the Code of Federal Regulations to be valid, the agency issuing the regulation must be authorized to issue the regulation either by a statute enacted by Congress or by authority granted in the Federal Constitution.

    90 posted on 04/30/2004 10:23:35 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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    To: Abcdefg
    Now the real problem is how do we go about the major job, of repealing that tax and putting a tax system more a appropriate to a free society in its place.
    91 posted on 04/30/2004 10:25:13 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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    To: ancient_geezer
    We need to take the vote away from the parasites, but how likely is that?
    92 posted on 04/30/2004 10:27:01 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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    To: Abcdefg
    Taking away the vote is not a particularly good way to go, if you wish to preserve your own.

    Why not make sure everyone actually participates in the tax system and are made aware of burdens that government imposes upon us all, not just the few here and there.

    To remove perception of the tax burdens of the individual, is to remove the goad which assures accountability of government to the electorate. Federal tax rates are high and government grows ever larger because a majority of the electorate do not perceive proportionately the burden their demand for largesse imposes on the minority of citizens.

    The siren call for representation without taxation is the formula that got us where we are at today. The ability to hide or disguise taxation from the view of large sectors of the electorate allows the Congress to get away with the creation of the evergrowing monster that it fosters.

    Liberty and freedom have a price, responsibility. If that price is avoided there are no brakes on the growth of government, the ultimate result is the end of freedom through creeping socialism.

     

    Thomas Hobbes from Leviathan

    [Montesquieu wrote in Spirit of the Laws, XIII,c.14:]

    Federalist #12:

    Patrick Henry, Virginia Ratifying Convention June 12, 1788:

    Federalist #21:


    93 posted on 04/30/2004 10:39:30 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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    To: steplock
    This sounds like a vendetta carried off at the local level (just using the IRS as a handy weapon), although if true it would seem to illustrate or highlight the types of abuses that can occur under the current federal tax system.

    I have become acquainted with a local IRS employee. He seems to be working for them as an auditor of sorts, although it is not clear to me (or apparently to many others as well). Anyway, he is different in that, besides being very abrasive even towards people he befriends, he never gives out any email address or USMail address. I imagine that at least part of that is for good reason, but I even know policemen who are less paranoid / private than he is. It makes one wonder, what kinds of things go on in the IRS that would make an ordinary employee go to such lengths to keep his privacy from people he comes into regular social contact with?

    I also wonder if you had a chance to check into the taxpayer's bill of rights for any support there? I am not sure if it is applicable to your case in particular, but I believe its overall intent is to curb the types of abuses that your case seems to exemplify.

    94 posted on 04/30/2004 11:06:23 PM PDT by SteveH
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    To: Central Scrutiniser
    Seven years, huh?

    Great. I guess he can throw all his old tax forms out and start fresh when he gets out of jail.

    You only are required to keep 7-yrs worth correct?
    95 posted on 04/30/2004 11:09:52 PM PDT by Chewbacca (I think I will stay single. Getting married is just so 'gay'.)
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    To: Central Scrutiniser
    This isn't such a funny letter to me. There was a note taped to my door two days ago from a "Revenue Compliance Officer" ordering me to call him at once. I called the number and left him a message. Today the guy came to my house an pompously began to rattle off the things that I'm going to need to prepare for his review.

    I was livid. First, I paid tens of thousands in taxes last year - and that's before you count gasoline tax, utility tax, telephone tax, travel tax, sales tax, vehicle registration, etc. So I stopped the guy from rambling long enough to say, "I pay enough as it is. If you guys want to rob me for more you're going to have to work for it, because I'm damned sure not going to help you do it." He then told me that I needed to listen and comply for my own sake. I followed that up by telling him that he needed to get the hell out of my foyer for his own sake.

    I don't doubt that I've opened the floodgates of hell on myself, but I couldn't resist. They confiscate way too much as it is, then this guy expects me to fall at his feet when he shows up. I'm glad that he left because I was too the point that I wanted to twist his head off. I figured that a refusal to cooperate was better than assault or manslaughter.
    96 posted on 05/01/2004 12:27:54 AM PDT by Jaysun (I won't be happy until they put cream cheese in a spray can.)
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    To: Central Scrutiniser
    "We're going to have chaos in this country if individual citizens are allowed to decide unilaterally which laws are constitutional and which aren't," Assistant U.S. Attorney David Jarvis said. "The sentence for Mr. Simkanin was quite severe and appropriate."

    Excellent point, your majesty. May I suggest that you next sentence the Mayor and Justices of the Peace of San Francisco to seven years in jail. You can then move on to the County Supervisors in Portland, Oregon. After all in flaunting clear state laws on marraige to advance their personal gay agenda they were unilaterallyl deciding which laws are constitutional.

    Oh, nothing is happening to them? It's not a double standard or politically motivated prosecution, is it?

    97 posted on 05/01/2004 8:16:02 AM PDT by Jack Black
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    To: natewill
    Am I the only one who has heard, seen, and participated in shoving it to the IRS? They are a joke!

    Personally I live by the old rule, if you don't like the laws, work to change them, but obey them. Now there are obvious limits to this, such as gun confiscation laws, or laws like those passed in Nazi Germany that were simply immoral.

    However as much as I dislike the tax laws they don't rise to this level. Taxes are a neccessary evil, and there is, at least, a constitutional ammendment that clearly authorizes the income tax.

    Finally I see nothing that makes me think the IRS is a joke. Like other "three letter" organizations they have huge powers, lots of men with guns, a compliant judiciary and a proven track record of destroying those who cross them. I'd probably rather piss off a mob boss than an IRS office.

    I don't think they can be defeated with legalisms, as was tried here, but still respect this fellow for following his beliefs. Still I think if he was making $400,000 a year he would have been better off paying his taxes, staying out of jail, and working to fix the system some other way. Alternately if he just really hated taxes he should have hired Terry Heinz's tax accountants. Via trusts, charities, relocations and off-shoring he could probably have paid almost nothing to the IRS anyway.

    98 posted on 05/01/2004 8:23:13 AM PDT by Jack Black
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    To: ancient_geezer
    Now the real problem is how do we go about the major job, of repealing that tax and putting a tax system more a appropriate to a free society in its place.

    WE HAVE A WINNER !!

    99 posted on 05/01/2004 8:35:29 AM PDT by Jack Black
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    To: MindBender26
    "A good accountant can save you 50% on your taxes every year, and do it perfectly legally!"

    See this is where I have a problem with the tax system!

    The system is set up in such a way that I have to either spend massive amounts of time studying tax law or I must PAY someone to make sure I don't over pay the government!

    Does anyone else have aproblem with this? Because, it sure does not seem right to me!

    100 posted on 05/01/2004 8:37:46 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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