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Scientists Win New Battle Over Skeleton (Kennewick Man)
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| 4-20-2004
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Posted on 04/20/2004 12:08:23 PM PDT by blam
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"are clearly disappointed. This case has dealt a staggering blow to the tribes' ability to protect their cultural properties." This is BS. The American Indians/Native Americans are not related to Kennewick Man, and only came to the Americas 3,000 years after Kennewick Man and his type were here.
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posted on
04/20/2004 12:08:24 PM PDT
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blam
To: farmfriend
GGG ping.
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posted on
04/20/2004 12:09:14 PM PDT
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blam
To: blam
Yep, indeedy...National Review wrote an interesting article some months back on this very issue....scientists will be able to determine that in fact, the Indians were NOT the first group to step foot in the new "America"....but more than likely will be a group of people of European dissent who, believe this if you will, walked across a "strait" or "island" connected to Canada (if memory serves me)...:)
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04/20/2004 12:12:34 PM PDT
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smiley
To: smiley
Can we palefaces set up some "Kennewick Gaming" casinos in Washington now?
To: blam
I have yet to see anything showing a clear relationship between those complaining and the bones.
I don't think any of us would like somebody digging up an ancestor without our permission, but nobody has proven who the bones belong to. As long as they are reburied, if they are being used to further our knowledge, there's not much harm.
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04/20/2004 12:18:35 PM PDT
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af_vet_rr
To: blam
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posted on
04/20/2004 12:24:09 PM PDT
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kennedy
To: kennedy
Ok, that is just .....???...!
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posted on
04/20/2004 12:29:46 PM PDT
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taxcontrol
(People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
To: Mr. Jeeves
NOW you're talking....
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posted on
04/20/2004 12:30:24 PM PDT
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smiley
To: smiley
"the Indians were NOT the first group to step foot in the new "America"...."Yup, looks like the Indians killed them all too.
Who Were The Si-Te-Cah?
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posted on
04/20/2004 12:31:13 PM PDT
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blam
To: af_vet_rr
They dig up our ancestors all the time.
This may very well be our ancestor. When you go back over 9000 years, there may even be some of your genes in this guy.
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04/20/2004 12:34:24 PM PDT
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Bon mots
To: blam
Skeleton? What Skeleton? Red Skeleton?
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04/20/2004 12:38:47 PM PDT
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graycamel
(I'm no relation to Joe Camel)
To: graycamel
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04/20/2004 12:41:03 PM PDT
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graycamel
(I'm no relation to Joe Camel)
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To: kennedy
( There's a picture on the net of Spirit Cave Man that resembles Kennewick Man)Science, Indian tribes both lay claim to Spirit Cave Man Researchers want to genetically test mummified remains, but the Paiute are seeking to rebury them.
By Sean Whaley
Donrey Capital Bureau
CARSON CITY -- Are the 9,400-year-old remains of Nevada's Spirit Cave Man evidence of human occupation in North America prior to the arrival of the ancestors of today's American Indians?
Evidence gleaned from tests and examinations of the oldest mummified human remains discovered on the continent suggests that possibility, researchers say. But the remains of the man, who was in his mid-40s and suffered from a bad back and fractured skull when he died around 7,400 B.C. near Fallon, could soon be off-limits to scientists.
Paiute Indian tribal officials want Spirit Cave Man reburied. The federal American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act requires human remains held by museums and researchers to be returned to Indian tribes who can make a valid claim for them.
But preliminary research suggests Spirit Cave Man may have no connection to the American Indian tribes who have lived in western Nevada for the past several hundred years. Instead, he may represent a completely different migration to North America and could be genetically linked to ancient Japanese or the Norse of northern Europe.
Amy Dansie, an archaeologist with the state Museums and History Division who announced the age of Spirit Cave Man last year, said a request has been made to the U.S. Bureau of Land Management to allow genetic testing. "The northern Paiute tribe is objecting to the study," she said. "The question is, do they have the right to stop science? We think it is important to proceed with the scientific inquiry."
The federal agency, which is considering the request, must authorize the test because of its invasive nature. The testing issue is separate from the request to rebury Spirit Cave Man filed by the Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe.
Ray Rawson, a forensic dentist and state senator who once requested an opportunity to study the remains of Spirit Cave Man, said further inquiry could rewrite human prehistory in North America. While Spirit Cave Man should be treated with respect, Rawson said research should continue to allow scientists to find out all they can about him.
"I want researchers to at least be able to come to a conclusion before reburying him," Rawson said. "We can't just put our heads in the sand."
Pressure to rebury the remains may reflect a concern by American Indians that further study will show they were not the first inhabitants of the continent, he said.
"Native populations have a right to have the sacred nature of their burials honored," Rawson said. "I don't want someone going through a graveyard and digging up my ancestors.
"But I don't think this case fits into that," he said. "Failing to look at what is going on here won't do any of us any good. Ignorance has never served mankind well."
Mervin Wright, chairman of the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe, disagrees. He said there is no question that Spirit Cave Man is related to the Paiute. The objects buried with Spirit Cave Man show a clear link with the Paiute people, he said.
Nor should there be any debate about whether he should be reburied immediately, Wright said.
"No matter what your belief, if your ancestor or relative is put to rest, you want to have dignity and respect to allow that person to rest in peace, whether he is 50,000 years old, 1 million years old or just put in the ground yesterday," he said.
"Once that burial is completed, it is considered sacred," Wright said.
Efforts by Eurocentric researchers to rewrite the history of human occupation of North America will not change the beliefs of the Paiute, he said.
"We don't look at our existence or creation as theory," Wright said.
The remains of Spirit Cave Man have been in the possession of the state since their discovery almost 50 years ago. But the naturally mummified remains, originally thought to be 2,000 years old, were dated only recently using a radiocarbon technique.
Stunned state officials announced their archaeological discovery in April 1996.
"This is the best dated early man in the New World," Dansie said.
The age was determined by performing seven separate radiocarbon-dating tests on samples of bone, hair and two reed mats in which he was buried.
Spirit Cave Man was found formally buried in the cave of the same name east of Fallon in 1940 by S.M. and Georgia Wheeler, hired to investigate and excavate caves in the region because of the threat to archaeological resources from guano miners.
The man, who stood 5-foot-2, still has black hair on his head and dried skin attached to his skull and his right shoulder. He became mummified in the dry air of the cave. He was wrapped in a finely woven reed mat and wore beautifully crafted moccasins made of three different types of animal hide.
Spirit Cave Man now resides in a warehouse in Carson City in the possession of the Department of Museums, Library and Arts. He is not the only ancient resident of the New World to spark controversy.
The discovery of the 9,200-year-old bones of Kennewick Man on the banks of the Columbia River in Washington last year has ignited a dispute between Indians and scientists that has landed in federal court. An initial analysis of the skull suggests Kennewick Man also is different from Indians now living in the area.
Indians have demanded the immediate reburial of the bones, while researchers say further study is needed. Dansie and fellow archaeologist Donald Tuohy said Spirit Cave Man and other ancient remains found in Nevada will continue to be studied until their fate is decided by the repatriation act.
Dansie said a new study, designed to provide a three- dimensional image of Spirit Cave Man and hopefully allow for a more detailed artist's rendering of what he looked like, is about to get under way. Because the process is not invasive, it can proceed without Bureau of Land Management approval.
While the repatriation act may ultimately result in the reburial of Spirit Cave Man, the law does give researchers some leeway. The 1990 law provides for completion of scientific research of "major benefit to the United States" prior to repatriation.
"This burial clearly qualifies under this provision," Dansie and Tuohy contend. "This is a world class discovery of significance to the understanding of humanity's origins on a planetary scale."
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04/20/2004 12:43:45 PM PDT
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blam
To: graycamel
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04/20/2004 12:44:51 PM PDT
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arielb
To: blam
Do we get casinos?
Will we now be able to circumvent OSHA,EPA,and all the various employment regs?
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04/20/2004 1:42:33 PM PDT
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Kay Soze
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04/20/2004 7:26:20 PM PDT
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farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: farmfriend
Finally, at long last, hooooooooooooooooray! :-)
To: blam
Yup, looks like the Indians killed them all too.Yup! Now they're trying to bury the evidence!
To: blam
Native Americans called him "The Ancient One", while anthropologists speculated he could reveal who first settled the Americas.
Then, for over seven years, the skeleton of Kennewick Man became the subject of a court battle between the two parties, crystallising the debate over who should lay claim to ancient human remains and artefacts.
Last week, a federal appeals court finally granted scientists the right to study the 9200-year-old bones, against the wishes of a group of native American tribes, including the Nez Perce tribe of Idaho and those of the Yakama Indian Nation, who wished to rebury them.
But the ruling may actually be a triumph of politics over science, since Kennewick Man could be of limited value to anthropologists. The archaeological site where it was found has been destroyed, taking with it vital contextual information. And, while the skeleton has gathered dust, other potentially more important skeletons have been unearthed.
But the researchers say it is the principle of access to such remains that counts. "If we'd caved in on this one, it would have closed the door to research on other early skeletons," says anthropologist Rob Bonnichsen of Texas A&M University at College Station, a plaintiff in the case.
Unusual features
The skeleton hit the headlines in 1996 when it was discovered along the north bank of the Columbia river in Kennewick, Washington. Carbon dating revealed the remains were between 8340 and 9200 years old, the oldest found in the Pacific north-west - then thought to be the first part of the Americas to be colonised.
Anthropologists were also excited because the skeleton was 90 per cent complete and had unusual features differing from those of Europeans or modern native Americans.
However, tribal officials demanded that the bones be reburied, claiming they had a right to inter their alleged forebear under the 1990 Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. At the time, the US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), who managed the federal land where the bones were found, decided in their favour.
Eight scientists, including Bonnichsen, sued the federal government in October 1996 to block the reburial, and the case has been in the courts ever since.
Shortly after the discovery, a select group of government scientists were allowed to study the remains. They concluded that Kennewick Man's ancestors came from Japan, Polynesia or south-east Asia. Co-plaintiff Loring Brace of the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, says, "I'd like to get my calipers on it," as he, like many others, is eager to compare it with other skeletons from the same period.
Concrete blocks
In the years since Kennewick Man came to light, however, several additional skeletons more than 8000 years old have been found, which also seem distinct from later populations. Most believe they came to the Americas from south-east, and then north-east, Asia at the end of the ice age, between 11,000 and 14,000 years ago.
It is not clear what Kennewick Man will add to this picture. "Until the research is done, you don't know," says Bonnichsen.
Although the skeleton remains intact, the site where it was found did not. In April 1998 the USACE dumped concrete blocks onto the site, supposedly to protect it from erosion, then planted trees. That is likely to have obliterated any archaeological evidence as well as any organic material that could be carbon dated to confirm Kennewick Man's age.
The bones were found after erosion washed away the river bank, so it is unclear whether they had been buried. A brief examination of the bank showed no evidence of any graves or artefacts, says geoarchaeologist Gary Huckleberry of Washington State University in Pullman. "The only material we found was historic trash."
But tribal opposition blocked him from digging to discover and analyse the stratigraphy the order and position of the layers of remains which is a vital element in understanding the skeleton itself.
Last week's decision upheld the ruling by the Ninth Circuit court in Oregon that the tribes had not clearly shown they are related to Kennewick Man, as required by the repatriation law. Either the federal government or the tribes could still appeal, but it is subject to approval by the Supreme Court which is far from guaranteed. No such appeal had been filed as New Scientist went to press.
Jeff Hecht
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994666 comment: It will be difficult to obtain forensic evidence as the site is destroyed.
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04/21/2004 8:16:28 AM PDT
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AdmSmith
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