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Pro-abortion/gay rights Catholic Senator Durbin highlighted for "keeping the faith" style...
Catholic Citizens.org ^ | 04.003.04 | Manya A. Brachear

Posted on 04/04/2004 5:19:07 PM PDT by Coleus

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Wisc. Bishop Tells Pro-Abort. Catholic Pols: Change Your Stripes or Stay Away from Holy Communion 

1 posted on 04/04/2004 5:19:08 PM PDT by Coleus
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2 posted on 04/04/2004 5:20:37 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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3 posted on 04/04/2004 5:21:12 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: Coleus
These people are disgusting, they sound like Episcopalians. "I think Faith should challenge anyone", what does that mean? To the speaker it means nothing, obviously, his actions, and Durbin's, speak louder then words. They are not challenged by faith, they have no faith. And as for the pro-abort giving out Communion, yech.
4 posted on 04/04/2004 5:23:28 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Coleus
"You're not going to change hearts if you're not going to let them in the door."

And while you're at it, pat 'em on the back - or better yet, give them an award for Good Citizenship. That'll really help the faithful figure out where the Church stands on the issues of the day.

5 posted on 04/04/2004 5:25:32 PM PDT by madprof98
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That hospitality is what keeps Durbin coming back to Old St. Patrick's, even though he officially resides in Springfield.

Old St. Pat's used to be the trendy parish for yuppies living in and near the city. Many in the congregation are mainly interested in the social events the parish sponsors.

6 posted on 04/04/2004 5:26:29 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: jocon307
These people are disgusting, they sound like Episcopalians, no they don't sound like UMC's.
7 posted on 04/04/2004 5:35:43 PM PDT by dts32041 (I have contributed monthly, since January 2003, how about you?)
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To: Coleus
The Church had better begin excommunicating... even Extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion have been influenced by these supposed "Catholic" Politicians are committing the sacrilege of condoning abortion and distributing the Blessed Sacrament to the faithful.
8 posted on 04/04/2004 5:36:38 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Coleus
"I believe there are a lot of Catholics out there that feel the way Dick Durbin does. I'm one of them," Andersen said. "Does that mean I shouldn't be giving out Communion? I don't think so. I agree with most of what the church does. I've been a good Catholic all my life."

How depressing that the state of catechisis in this country has come to this. This woman should not be allowed to receive the Blessed Sacrament...let alone distribute it. It's bad enough that we're using LEM's at all...but LEM's who openly defy Church teaching on abortion???

9 posted on 04/04/2004 5:39:58 PM PDT by pgkdan
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How's this for Kerry keeping The Faith????

MEDIA INTEREST IN KERRY’S CATHOLICISM GROWS

Catholic League president William Donohue commented as follows:

“The Catholic League does not possess a theological micrometer that judges, with digital precision, how ‘good’ a Catholic is. Furthermore, it is not our business anyway. But it is also true that we will not pretend disinterest in subjects that touch on the issue of Catholics in public life.

“This week’s issue of Time magazine says Senator John Kerry ‘sought an annulment of his 18-year first marriage before marrying again.’ News reports indicate, however, that Kerry didn’t seek an annulment until after he married Teresa Heinz in a civil ceremony in 1995. Today’s New York Times says Kerry ‘sought an annulment from the church when he was divorced from his first wife.’ Notice that neither Time nor the New York Times says that an annulment was granted. They say it was ‘sought.’

“Kerry cannot claim that this is a private matter since he publicly joked about his quest for an annulment on the Don Imus show of May 8, 1997. ‘Seventy-five percent of all annulments in the world take place in the United States,’ Kerry said, ‘and I guess the figure drops to 50 percent if you take out all Massachusetts politicians.’ He continued saying, ‘It’s one of those special Catholic things. It’s like confession or feeling guilty about things you haven’t even thought of doing.’

“On February 16, 2004, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that ‘Kerry’s office didn’t respond to several e-mail and telephone requests’ regarding the question of whether an annulment was granted. On March 23, 2003, the Providence Journal-Bulletin said that Kerry ‘will not say whether he obtained an annulment of his first marriage….’ Why the reticence, especially since Kerry says his ‘current marriage is in good graces with the church?’

“Why does this matter? If Kerry did not receive an annulment, then he is not married in the Catholic Church and cannot receive the sacraments. But even if he was annulled, did he and Teresa Heinz get married in the Catholic Church following the annulment? If not, then Kerry is not married in the Church, thus raising all sorts of questions.”

10 posted on 04/04/2004 5:41:13 PM PDT by mware
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>>Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?<<

Kucinich?!?! I would not be surprised if Pilla kissed him flat out on the lips before he ever had a hand in excommunicating him. Tony Pilla himself is a piece of work.
11 posted on 04/04/2004 5:41:48 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Busybody of Free Republic)
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Paragraph 2285 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
Scandal takes on a particular gravity by reason of the authority of those who cause it or the weakness of those who are scandalized. It prompted our Lord to utter this curse: "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened round his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea." Scandal is grave when given by those who by nature or office are obliged to teach and educate others. Jesus reproaches the scribes and Pharisees on this account: he likens them to wolves in sheep's clothing.
In this case, the authorities giving scandal are both politicians and their clerical fan club.
12 posted on 04/04/2004 5:45:46 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Coleus
That hospitality is what keeps Durbin coming back to Old St. Patrick's. . .

A Trendier Than Thou Church, where Catholicism is looked on as a Denny's menu. Pick and choose what you want.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

13 posted on 04/04/2004 5:46:37 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Artist Formerly Known as mikeb704.)
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Cafeteria Catholics, just pick and choose what you want.
14 posted on 04/04/2004 5:48:02 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: netmilsmom
Who is Tony Pilla?
15 posted on 04/04/2004 5:49:35 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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Bishop Anthony Pilla of Cleveland.
My Uncle was in the seminary with him.
16 posted on 04/04/2004 5:50:52 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Busybody of Free Republic)
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To: independentmind
Old St. Pat's used to be the trendy parish for yuppies living in and near the city. Many in the congregation are mainly interested in the social events the parish sponsors.>>>

Getting high and singing kumbayah
while choosing their faith, picking and choosing, off the cafeteria menu
17 posted on 04/04/2004 5:53:19 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus
Already Durbin says he hears from bishops at least 100 times a year on issues ranging from immigration reform, unemployment, education and foreign aid to gay marriage and abortion....

"It is tough to run for public office and face an opponent, to decide on issues what is the best thing, then face the criticism from colleagues, voters, the press and defend yourself," Durbin said. "Now add to that equation for a Catholic politician ... one last stop. The local bishop will announce whether your vote is appropriate and whether or not you're in good standing with the church as a result of that vote."

First of all, to equate decisions on unemployment policy to the murder of babies is disgusting. Then Durbin bemoans the fact that he has to make that "one last stop", gosh darnit, and worry about the Church's position on it, too. He either needs to find a new profession or claim a new religion, since apparently the mix he has now is simply too difficult for him.

18 posted on 04/04/2004 5:56:02 PM PDT by workerbee
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MEDIA INTEREST IN KERRY’S CATHOLICISM GROWS>>>

Ah, the plot thickens.

Teresa on the Stump, Teresa Heinz Kerry, from Mozambique, PRO-ABORTION Catholic, UN Employee, etc.

Teresa Heinz Kerry, Drummond Pike and the Communist TIDES FOUNDATION

The Bible and homosexuality [Kerry thinks the bible is for homosexuality]

 

John Kerry and Unborn Victims

Catholic Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual

Catholic and 100% Pro Abortion

Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

19 posted on 04/04/2004 5:56:19 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: pgkdan
What has the world come to when people think it is acceptable to run a baby through a Cuisinart?

Why stop at the 1st or 2nd trimester? Why not say that the mother should be able to abort the child up until the time the child can fend for him/herself? That's what, about 15 or 16 years old? (35 or older in some cases!)

Sure! I mean really, why not? Doesn't the mother have the right to choose? If the kid isn't working out, or is somehow inconvenient for the mother either before birth or after birth, we'll just drop the kid into a big wood chipper. Maybe the mom can call the school and just have the school bus drop the kid off at the pulp mill, that way she won't even have to take time off from work!

It's the same thing, right? Doesn't the mother have the right to live her own life free from all these petty inconveniences and intrusions; you know, like responsibility for one's own actions, stuff like that.

What's more important, the freedom to have sex with as many partners as often as one would like or without any kind of birth control (like abstinence)or the "rights" of a "blob of tissue" that no one is even sure is a "person"?

Let's get real people.

20 posted on 04/04/2004 5:57:44 PM PDT by Brother Kevin
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