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Anti-war woman's trip to see son serving in Iraq has surprises for both
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| April 3, 2004
| Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Staff Writer
Posted on 04/03/2004 4:02:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sakic
"You may disagree with what she's done but she obviously cares about and loves her son. Anyone who thinks she took this trip for political reasons or any other reason is nuts."
Yeah, it's the same kind of love that you read about when a mother kills her children because she does want them to have to face the evils of the world.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:21:57 AM PST
by
Lee'sGhost
(Crom!)
To: sakic
You may disagree with what she's done but she obviously cares about and loves her son
As a mother of 2 soldiers I disagree. I love mine enough to the respect the choices they have made as adults in how to live their lives. If this mother raised her kids in her eyes see obviously did a poor job as 3 of her children bucked her teachings and joined the military. I have more respect for them than I do for her.
To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
He probably met some of "her friends". That would cause anyone to do something worthwhile.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:22:11 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: kcvl
You don't think that she loves her son? You don't think that he loves her?
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:22:21 AM PST
by
sakic
To: raybbr
I think the Iraqis would prefer US Soldiers over the "peacenicks" that were over there before the Liberation.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:22:37 AM PST
by
Dallas59
To: redlipstick
'My kid is going to get killed for something I don't believe in, and I don't think he knows what he's getting into." Well, Ma'am, what you think isn't the issue and doesn't really matter. Your son is a grown man and made a man's decision to serve his country.
Amazingly enough, it seems that the leftist toddler mentality hasn't been passed on to the children.
To: alnick
"I don't know if he hasn't been responding to my e-mails because he can't, or because of something else," Galleymore said.Gee, wonder why Hero Son, who said his mother's rantings and reports of GIs being brainwashed were flat-out wrong, isn't responding to her emails.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:26:20 AM PST
by
shezza
(The road to totalitarianism is paved with good intentions.)
To: redlipstick
"In her complete self-absorption, she has embarrassed her son and revealed her own ignorance. " This is a hugely profound observation. The core tactic of those out to destroy our nation has been to turn our society away from a culture of individuals focused on improving the lot of the next generation into a culture focused on a shallow, quixotic and ultimately unattainable quest to indulge every impulse of the moment. Rampant homosexuality, drug abuse and abortion are symptoms of this disease.
The redefiniton of marriage away from an institution designed to reward those individuals who make the sacrifices necessary to create an environment conducive to the raising of children into a entitlement is yet another example of this problem. The attack on marriage is particularly insidious. The benefits of marriage have been trumpeted by society over the millenia in order to induce couples to make these sacrifices. And now these benefits are demanded as an entitlement by people with no intention of making the sacrifice. A self-absorbed entitlement mentality is also reflected in the insatiable demands of seniors for more medicare and social security benefits at a time of out of control government defecits.
If a majority of Americans don't lose their self absorption and rededicate themselves to improving the lot of the next generation our society is finished. You can see the level of sacrifice our enemies are willing to make in order to kill us. We are going to have to respond in kind if we are going to survive.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:26:49 AM PST
by
trek
To: Lee'sGhost
Yeah, it's the same kind of love that you read about when a mother kills her children because she does want them to have to face the evils of the world.Killing your children equals what she's done? Take a step back from the politics of his mother and yourself and realize how ridiculous that is.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:27:45 AM PST
by
sakic
To: sakic
I didn't say that, did I? I said you need to read her website if you really want to know what she thinks of her son, compared to what she thinks of the Iraqis, who just happen to hate President Bush.
But, since you are trying to put words in my mouth, why would she accuse him of killing innocent people, if she loved him so much?
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:28:03 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: kcvl
Her website would not be able to exist in Iraq 2 years ago.
For that matter her website would not be permitted in So. Africa today( where she was raised by nannies) , either...
"Don't be ashamed of anything you would do in Iraq", she tells her son,-I thought that liberals were not ashamed of anything.
To: boxerblues
As a mother of 2 soldiers I disagree.You truly believe that she doesn't love her son?
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:29:03 AM PST
by
sakic
To: Cincinatus' Wife
"They could never discuss it."
That's pretty sad.
This woman's political views are apparently more important to her than the pride that a normal mother would feel in this situation. Here's an article by her, which I found by going to a site called
http://www.motherspeak.com :
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0218-05.htm Here's one particularly nauseating quote:
"I'm back home and now I know what is going on in Iraq: our leadership is destroying the spirits of GIs and Iraqi civilians in an unnecessary, money-grubbing free-for-all under the guise of necessary war and occupation. Iraqis, too, know what is going on; they describe the situation as, "Same donkey, different blanket.""
Wow, her son is putting his life on the line for the cause of freedom and all she can do is come back home to the comfort of her suburban California home and write articles that implicitly slander her son.
Well, Nick, I'm sure I can speak for all Freepers and most Americans when I say,
Thank you!
To: sakic
She sure as hell isn't acting like it!
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:30:15 AM PST
by
kcvl
To: redlipstick
It always amazes me how those on the left promote tolerance and remaining open-minded, yet this mother fortunate enough to visit her son in Iraq practiced none of that. She had already painted her picture of the situation, and let emotion flavor her reactions.
Yes, she did embarass her son.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:31:54 AM PST
by
Katya
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's see....
The son is 25, and decides that 3000 people dying by terrorists' hands is worth doing something about.
I'd say he knew what he was doing, and getting himself into.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:33:25 AM PST
by
Maigrey
(We don't need a thumbsucker in the White House. - azgopgal)
To: kcvl
My only contention here is with those that seem to feel that she doesn't love her son and that he doesn't love her. Parents and children always disagree with each other about things and still love each other.
If you want to hate her for her politics, fine, but claiming as some here have, that they don't love each other is insane.
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:34:25 AM PST
by
sakic
To: sakic
I think she may love them in her own way, but not enough to accept the fact that they are adults who have made a decision to live their life that is not to her liking. It sounds like she is a bit of a control freak.
To: kcvl
Cut pic--looks like a youngish mom. Maybe someday she'll understand that he doesn't want to see free women forced into wearing burquas...
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:35:39 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
(for a post-Neo conservatism)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
She requested the same anonymity for her daughter, who likewise doesn't share her mother's opinions on the war. The acorns fell far from the tree. This is good news.
I do feel sorry for the guy. I can imagine some of the comments...
"Hey Nick, since your mom is a hippy-chick MILF, can we spend some time with her too?"
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posted on
04/03/2004 5:36:19 AM PST
by
SC Swamp Fox
(Aim small, miss small.)
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