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Traders Are Not Traitors (Outsourcing is good for America--and the world.)
The Weekly Standard ^ | March 29, 2004 | Cesar Conda and Stuart Anderson

Posted on 03/20/2004 11:24:07 AM PST by RWR8189

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1 posted on 03/20/2004 11:24:08 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189
Let's see now. No facts. No figures. Just lots of words about how wonderful outsourcing is. And then we have Friedman: "Friedman warned: "There is more to outsourcing than just economics. There's also geopolitics."

That's the same argument one might use for any other welfare program - i.e., pay them off so they don't burn down the 'hood.

Outsourcing - another UN backed global welfare program, paid for by American workers.

2 posted on 03/20/2004 11:32:24 AM PST by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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To: neutrino
Darn toot'n! Doggone profiteering corporations! Ought to be a law against it. Down with capitalism! Yankee Go Home! mutter sputter pfft!
3 posted on 03/20/2004 12:04:10 PM PST by Jim Robinson (warning: some parts of this post may be plagiarized - some parts may be sarcasm - no parts edible)
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To: Jim Robinson
Apparently the names Smoot and Hawley are lost in ancient history to some Freepers.

Sad, ain't it.

L

4 posted on 03/20/2004 12:12:56 PM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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To: RWR8189
Free trade in goods and services can be an important tool for accomplishing peacefully what our soldiers are, in part, fighting for in Iraq, namely a transition to a freer and more prosperous world that, in turn, will make Americans more secure.

A great point. I wish the dictator thugs of the Arab world would look to what the Indians and the Chinese are doing.

5 posted on 03/20/2004 12:13:41 PM PST by SupplySider
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To: Lurker
Apparently the names Smoot and Hawley are lost in ancient history to some Freepers.

Since trade involved only 5% of our economy in 1930, the effect of Smoot Hawley tariffs were nil.

6 posted on 03/20/2004 12:18:20 PM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: RWR8189
"Of course, the entire preoccupation with call-center jobs is a bit strange, since Kerry and other members of Congress had previously passed "Do Not Call" legislation that, according to telemarketing industry estimates, could eliminate as many as two million U.S. call-center jobs."

LOL, I never thought of this!
7 posted on 03/20/2004 12:20:51 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: RWR8189
Customers are informed that if they press the "India" button, their loan will be processed in one day, while the U.S.-based work may take two days or longer.

Of course customers are told that the Americans may take longer... because eloan saves money using the Indians. They have a vested interest in putting the American based workers in a bad light.
8 posted on 03/20/2004 12:23:34 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: SupplySider
Things have changed. Again, I want to ask Cesar what technical career should we study for to ensure a good income in the future? Should I go into engineering? No, that's all going offshore. Should I go into computer science? No, that's all going offshore. I know, I'll be a radiologist. No, that's all going offshore, too. All of the technical jobs are going offshore.
We had tariffs a long time before Smoot-Hawley. We need a tariff now on imported goods. The Internet has changed the economic equation radically.
9 posted on 03/20/2004 12:24:08 PM PST by CompProgrammer
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To: CompProgrammer
What is the benefit of tarrifs?

Don't you think the country you slap it on will respond in kind?
10 posted on 03/20/2004 12:30:41 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: RWR8189
India already has very high tariffs on American good and services, around 70% (one of the highest in the world). If we slapped tariffs in kind, there wouldn't be an issue.
11 posted on 03/20/2004 12:36:26 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: RWR8189
Don't you think the country you slap it on will respond in kind?

Bingo! LET'S RESPOND IN KIND!!!

12 posted on 03/20/2004 12:42:23 PM PST by null and void (Don't stand idly by and watch your country commit Hairy Kerry!)
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Benefits of tariff
- Cost of imported goods and services go up. Relative cost of domestic goods and services goes down. More jobs go to Americans (that's us!)
- More money generated for Treasury. Can use this for wage insurance (instead of pitiful unemployment benefits)

We won't have any technical jobs unless the cost-benefit ratio is changed.

Again, if I am wrong, just tell me what technical job I should train for in order to generate a good income.
13 posted on 03/20/2004 12:49:26 PM PST by CompProgrammer
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. . . just tell me what technical job I should train for in order to generate a good income.

Technically, you should start by looking at the want-ads.

14 posted on 03/20/2004 12:54:36 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: CompProgrammer; hchutch; Jim Robinson
Cost of imported goods and services go up. Relative cost of domestic goods and services goes down.

Nope. Domestic providers simply increase their prices to the new set-point.

Everyone (that's us!) spends more money for fewer goods and services

More money generated for Treasury. Can use this for wage insurance (instead of pitiful unemployment benefits)

So you're in favor of ever larger amounts of government largesse.

15 posted on 03/20/2004 1:04:12 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: 1rudeboy
You didn't really answer CompProgrammer's question.

What exactly are those jobs that will appear in lieu of the jobs currently going away?

Hasn't that been the promise of free trade all along?

16 posted on 03/20/2004 1:09:06 PM PST by AM2000
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To: AM2000
I "didn't really" answer? Don't be shy, I ignored it . . . .

I have some money to invest. Can you tell me exactly where I should do so in order to make a profit?

17 posted on 03/20/2004 1:13:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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Choosing an investment has a very high degree of uncertainty.

So you're saying that choosing your profession should have the same high degree of uncertainty?

If the former doesn't quite pan out, you can always sell, cut your losses and reinvest. If the latter doesn't work out (say, because most of the jobs in that sector have gone to China or India), it's not that easy. Reinvesting is infinitely less time consuming than retraining.

18 posted on 03/20/2004 1:17:09 PM PST by AM2000
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To: CompProgrammer
Wonder when FreeRepublic's maintenance will be outsourced, seems like the "American" thing to do...

Sheesh, I wonder if there are any patriots left - Capitalism is great, but not at the expense of the country.
19 posted on 03/20/2004 1:27:12 PM PST by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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NEO-CONS: MAKING THE WORLD A SAFE PLACE FOR GLOBAL-CORPORATE BUSINESS SINCE 2001.
20 posted on 03/20/2004 1:30:36 PM PST by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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