Offshoring Goes on the Offensive

The McKinsey Quarterly, McKinsey & Co. ^ | 03/17/2004 | John Hagel III

[Dead Dog]

Also notice how they harp on performance. I do not know of anyone that has dealt with a vendor that would agree with this. There is a definate conflict of interest when someone builds something that will have someone elses name on it. Always, just good enough...never great.

[Paul C. Jesup]

What you are not understanding from my posts is that China (and most of the world) is economically tied at the hip with the U.S. economy.

If we go down, they go down with us.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Thank you for backing me up.

[Dead Dog]

the graduates of the top Indian business schools (which are unimaginably more competitive and elite than the top U.S. and European business schools). And we get to the real advantage of outsourcing, Outsource Management. Remeber, were not giving their job away, they are "Work Sharing".

[skeeter]

But Americans' comparatively high wages are just fine when it comes time for these companies to peddle their crap. Talk about picking low hanging fruit.

IMO its past time for the US to start considering some kind of local content restriction.

[CasearianDaoist]

I know that, I worked for Andersen once upon a time. But I mean a Mckinnsey whose home office in in Beijing and whose partners are connected with the Chinese and other Asian elites (being connect to elites is the name of the game for partners in management consulting, more imprtant in fact than being "smart," Mckennsey hired Chelsea Clinton for Pete's sake.) Should China become the leading economy, the Mckinnseys of the West will have a rough go of it - and they will start crying like babes.

And if your "new global economy" just has good jobs for "smart people" then it will untimatley fail both in the historical and moral sense of the word. That is the problem with the cheerleaders for Globalism: Their viewpoint is completely elitist. If the Average IQ is 100 then half of the people that make up socielty are average or less. We cannot all work for Accenture. The common man needs a peice of the pie too;if he does not have the option of buying a decent house, sending his kinds to college should they be worthy and a job with some minimal dignity we will either have a revolution, civil war or a fuedal society. THis country cannot survive without strong working and middle classes, or at least not survive as a country worth living in. It is one thing to live in a developing country - it is quite another to kive in a country that is regressing backwards into third world status - the citzenrty will not go there lightly.

The other thing I object to is you notion that Globaism is inevitable, that is it some sort of force of nature. It is not. It can be undone. It will in fact in the end be undone by war or the passing of the West. Best we face now as a nation while we still have a nation. It is just a matter of national will.

[lewislynn]

You just got to think things through.

Thinking things through is one thing, accurately predicting the future is another.

[CompProgrammer]

We must impose a tariff on all imported goods and services. Ask every person running for Congress in your area if they support doing this. It is constitutional - far more constitutional than the income tax. It is smart - it will help keep jobs here at home.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Thinking things through is one thing, accurately predicting the future is another.

Your sentence is an oxymoron.

[lewislynn]

Your sentence is an oxymoron.

It would be if everytime something was thought through it also accurately predicted the future...it doesn't and you can't.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Check my posts, I am looking at cause and effect. I never as a fact something would happen, but I stated only my opinion on when something would happen.

If you took the time to read the rest of my posts on this thread you would know that.

[Dead Dog]

I like eliminating all corporate and individule income taxes and going to an NRST. No matter where it is made, it is all taxed here when it hits the market.

[CasearianDaoist]

Read my posts, please. With all due respect, we hash out these issues in great detail here abouts and the obvious response that an American crash in the long term will kill the Chinese ascendancy will not wash for the simple reason that multinationals are building a global market place and supply chain around the American economy (and, not accidentally, its middle classes. ) Even if there where a ten year depression the same problems with globalism would still obtain. The same thing could be said about China's position in the world. In any event it is hard to see how your scenario would place America in a better position facing China. The contest now moves from the economic to martial, as all squabbles orver markets eventually do.

Also, I posited that America is quickly losing its position as the engine of China's prosperity. What if my assertion is true? So there is a dip in American exports, so what? Do you think that we are the only market in the world? What if this dip happens not 5 years out but 10 years out. What will the balance of trade be then?

[junta]

bump

[Paul C. Jesup]

So you don't read my posts before repling, how insulting.

[Paul C. Jesup]

So you don't read my posts before replying, how insulting.

[lewislynn]

I never as a fact something would happen, but I stated only my opinion on when something would happen.

You thought it through, then predicted the future...

Other than you talking in circles, am I missing someting?

[CasearianDaoist]

NO, I am reading your posts, I am cmerely hallenging them. If that insults you then do not post them. I am not trying to insult you and in fact used quite polite language. Sorry to ruffle feathers but if evenconservative annot see the threat then what an earth are we to do?

[Paul C. Jesup]

What part of the word 'OPINION' do you not understand.

[Paul C. Jesup]

I have had arguements on the FR before because the other person kept replying without reading my posts.

This is probably one of those times with lewislynn.