Rosie's Story (20/20 background; Dads are Missing)

I did fail to mention I am not a homosexual and never have been. I will be married 30 years in May to the same man and the only marriage I plan to ever know.

Who really cares who does what with whom in the bedroom, I wish it would at least just stay there and not have to be pushed in our faces on a regular basis. It still doesn't make it right or nor it ever be right.

Unless Rosie can concoct some outrageous stunt, in 18 months we'll all be asking, "Rosie, who?".

Yep. I don't think Rosie can have a second act to her career the way Ellen DeGeneres has. For one, Ellen is not insane (although she did hook up with an insane person, Anne Heche, who nearly killed Ellen's career) and she learned the hard way that nobody wants to hear 24/7 about her sex life. Rosie, on the other hand, is just plain nuts.

The culture war, men's division, is only fought with truth, not exaggerated claims, which will at some point in time be found false, to the detriment of the men's division of the culture war.

I see your point. I suppose all I can offer here is my common sense. To mother a son to manhood ... some claim it can be done, as one post here did.

In my view, that can only happen successfully if that woman experienced a proper fathering as a girl. I just don't think it comes out of thin air.

I've never met a woman from a fatherless background who solely on her own efforts brought up a selfless, service-oriented man ... that other men would look up to and follow. Bill Clinton is the arch-type mama's boy. I've met fatherless men by the boatload, who are service oriented. But the services they choose are usually populated by women.

You're smell test comment is fair in the sense you don't want to appear absolutist. But, in fairness, sexual identity is a function of the father on the whole. You can hold a given woman accountable if you wish .... but her Dad is in the wings, and his success, or failure, is written on her heart. What her son experiences will be a reflection of that.

Sometimes overbearing, distant, unloving fathers can be
ever so present and just create in their sons the longing
for a loving, close relationship with another male, too.
- Also, a domineering, distant, unloving mother can create
the same response from a daughter. Mom or Dad, hug your
kids. IMHO

I think you're on the money here. I believe there are homosexuals who were born with strong genetic predispositions to homosexuality -- look at that boy on the sitcom "WHo's the Boss"; you knew when he was six years old he would turn out gay, Tony Danza's masculine inlfuence notwithstanding -- however, Rosie is not one of these. Just the fact that it first occured to her she was gay was when she was 19: that's very late to have the first stirrings. no, you're right: Rosie's trying to be "father" she thinks her own father should have been. Tragic, really.

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