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E-Mail: Attack on U.S. '90 Percent Ready'
Fox News ^ | 03/11/2004 | AP

Posted on 03/12/2004 8:14:36 AM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: eno_
Until Moslems are free to leave their religion

There is room within that religion to form new sects, even though one can never actually leave. In fact, such a thing is actually less disruptive than in Christianity. Islam could use a thorough reformation, and this would be a good time to do it. They need their Martin Luther equivalent, although without a hierarchical cadre of priests that would have to be up to individuals--the laiety that all of them are.

101 posted on 03/12/2004 2:11:13 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Dallas59
Nah; just a super-scooper filled with pig's blood.

A warning.

THEN we nuke it.

--Boris

102 posted on 03/12/2004 3:13:47 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Apropos of nothing, 90% of the leap year of 2004 occurs on or about November 23, unless I slipped a digit...
103 posted on 03/12/2004 3:19:04 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Dallas59
Regarding your post #30: you need at least 20 747's just to come close to being even.
104 posted on 03/12/2004 3:22:09 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ought-six
"Well according to what I read, the Black Wind of Death is either an economic collapse or a nuke. But the description of the Black Wind as being of fire and ash and smoke and boiling water sure sounds nuclear to me."

I thought of chem/bio. "Black wind"...

105 posted on 03/12/2004 4:11:09 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: HitmanNY
"If a terrorist group detonates low yeield nuclear weapons in, say, NYC, DC, and Los Angeles, just as an example. The entire cities would not be destroyed, most likely - initial blast crater would be a few blocks, and fires would rage for a few blocks more radiating outward.

"The cities would be terribly damagaed, and the impact would be felt citywide - gas pipes exploding, fire racing down subway tunnels, and not enough police and firemen to control the disaster.

"Say 50,000+ dead in each city, several hundred thousand more burned or injured in each city.

"OK, Einstein, who do you nuke in response? A major muslim city? A holy site? So kill millions of innocent people over the murder of our innocent people? Ruin one of their holy sites over what an admittedly small minority of their culture did? What does that accomplish?

"The correct response is attack those directly responsible - using a nuke is like using a dozen grenades when a 9mm gun is better suited."

The attack on 9/11/2001 was an act of war WORSE than Pearl Harbor. It occurred on our soil, against innocents, including women and children. At least Pearl was against a military installation not on American soil.

The event of 9/11 was ample justification for a formal declaration of war against Islam--and for any form of retaliation we had the capacity to inflict.

Had I been President on 9/12/2001, you could still see the glowing patches that once were capital cities of terror supporting states, and Mecca and Medina would have been reduced to their component atoms.

No mercy. No quarter. This is war, and we are in denial. Specifically, you are in denial.

One lesson: the death of one American is worth the deaths of (say) 100,000 Arabs. They understand only violence, overwhelming force and superiority--and we should have administered it long ago. To do otherwise shows only weakness and invites more attacks.

--Boris

106 posted on 03/12/2004 4:19:10 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
When someone brags something is ''90% ready'' that means it's barely started, if at all...
107 posted on 03/12/2004 4:20:52 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
It won't take a nuke to destroy this country. All it takes is one or two Stingers at different airports with two heavy's destroyed immediately after takeoff.
It would halt all air travel, transport, you name it.
The airlines would go bankrupt, other carriers would stop flying, this could go on and on......
108 posted on 03/12/2004 4:59:18 PM PST by OregonRancher
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Dream on. Bush would never dare be so "insensitive".
109 posted on 03/12/2004 5:00:23 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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To: ABE
Check what happens to the ones in Russia when they assume room temperature. It is no threat there.
110 posted on 03/12/2004 5:38:08 PM PST by Johnny Crab
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To: keithtoo
I'm 90% ready to be a billionaire. I have all 9 '0''s and three commas. All I need is a '1' to go in front.

ROFLMAO!
Good One!
LOL

111 posted on 03/12/2004 5:41:08 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: boris
Had I been President on 9/12/2001, you could still see the glowing patches that once were capital cities of terror supporting states, and Mecca and Medina would have been reduced to their component atoms.

Yep. That works for me too. Not only as retaliation, but to set an example for any future would-be terrorists (attack us, and this is our response). The Romans knew how to set an example. I believe a tactical nuclear detonation within a few days after 9/11 would have been a defensible response on our part.

112 posted on 03/12/2004 5:56:28 PM PST by IndyTiger
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To: boris
Boris,

I for one am glad you are not, and likely never will be, president.

I am all for using our military might against those responsble for the terrorist acts, indeed, the act of war.

I am against going on a homicidal, genocidal rampage against 1 billion people around the world, many of which live here in the states.

The terrorist attacks on 9-11 is not justification for a war against a religion, sorry. If the battle lines ultimately are drawn that way, fine, but as of 9-12-01, up till today, there is nothing to warrant such a rash action as 'you could still see the glowing patches that once were capital cities of terror supporting states, and Mecca and Medina would have been reduced to their component atoms.'

Grow up - denial isn't a river in egypt, nor am I in denial. What you describe would be a terrible course of action that most folks would not justify. Even after thousands of our own innocents are murdered, that is not an unlimited license for us to do what you prescribe.

I do not advocate weakness - I advocate a measured response against those responsible, both as a punitive measure and as a deterrent. Nuking holy cities and killion millions of innocents is not a rationally measured response.
113 posted on 03/12/2004 6:25:34 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY
"I for one am glad you are not, and likely never will be, president."

I'm glad you're glad.

"I am all for using our military might against those responsble for the terrorist acts, indeed, the act of war."

The war between Western Civilization and barbarism has been going on for centuries. Let us end it.

"I am against going on a homicidal, genocidal rampage against 1 billion people around the world, many of which live here in the states."

"A homicidal, genocidal rampage" is a pretty good descriptor of WAR. As for those Muslims living here, there are two types: (a) those on visas [invitations to visit], which should have been immediately revoked and their holders deported; and (b) "naturalized citizens" harboring an unknown number of sleepers and moles. Detailed and exhaustive background checks on all of them need to be conducted soonest.

"The terrorist attacks on 9-11 is not justification for a war against a religion, sorry. If the battle lines ultimately are drawn that way, fine, but as of 9-12-01, up till today, there is nothing to warrant such a rash action as 'you could still see the glowing patches that once were capital cities of terror supporting states, and Mecca and Medina would have been reduced to their component atoms.'

As I said, it was an act of war, the latest strike in a centuries-long conflict. Time to END it...now. Rash? Maybe you'd think differently if one of your loved ones was in the WTC...

"Grow up - denial isn't a river in egypt, nor am I in denial. What you describe would be a terrible course of action that most folks would not justify. Even after thousands of our own innocents are murdered, that is not an unlimited license for us to do what you prescribe."

The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor--and we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Islamists represent a more dire "clear and present danger" to us and our children--not to mention our civilization...and deserve the worst we can throw at them. Anyone thinking differently is--in essence--on the side of the enemy.

"I do not advocate weakness - I advocate a measured response against those responsible, both as a punitive measure and as a deterrent. Nuking holy cities and killion millions of innocents is not a rationally measured response."

Weakness is precisely what you advocate, and "rationally measured" responses are interpreted--as I said before--as weakness. Will it take a nuke in Chicago to convince you? Smallpox in L.A.?...

--Boris

114 posted on 03/12/2004 6:48:17 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: boris
Boris,

19 extremists, part of a terrorist network of several thousand, attack the USA on 9-11-01, killing 3000+ people and injuring others.

I lived 1/3 mile from WTC at the time, I know people who died there. I grew up in nyc, about 1/3 mile from ground zero.

So you want to blow up holy cities in response? Murder millions of people who were not responsible?

That's insane.

I agree with you on a macro level, but not a micro level. Yes this is war, but what you prescribe isn't rational at all.

Good luck.
115 posted on 03/12/2004 6:54:57 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: ABE
"If that doesn't scare the crap out of them nothing will."

We don't want to scare them - we want to kill them.

116 posted on 03/12/2004 7:17:26 PM PST by virtude
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To: boris
Are you registered in all 50 states? I would like to vote for you.
117 posted on 03/12/2004 7:37:39 PM PST by virtude
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To: HitmanNY
"So you want to blow up holy cities in response? Murder millions of people who were not responsible?"

I know you didn't address the question to me, but I'd like to answer it with a categorical YES.

"That's insane."

No. That's a "rationally measured response."

PS: I live in Bklyn and witnessed the "massacre."
118 posted on 03/12/2004 7:45:26 PM PST by virtude
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To: virtude
I lived and grew up in manhattan, 1/3 mile from WTC.

If you seriously want to take that posture, you need help.
119 posted on 03/12/2004 7:51:12 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY
"19 extremists, part of a terrorist network of several thousand, attack the USA on 9-11-01, killing 3000+ people and injuring others.

"I lived 1/3 mile from WTC at the time, I know people who died there. I grew up in nyc, about 1/3 mile from ground zero.

"So you want to blow up holy cities in response? Murder millions of people who were not responsible?"

It is the culture which spawned those 19--and the thousands who danced in the streets upon the news of the attack. It is the culture which glorifies such atrocities--and which will continually hatch more.

The question is: on planet Earth, which is to survive?...Western Civilization or barbarism? You have made your choice.

We don't have time to selectively pick out the "bad eggs". Kill them all and let Allah sort them out.

And yes indeedie, I would LOVE to push the buttons for Mecca and Medina, one megaton each.

Every dead arab is one fewer terrorist we need face; indeed, were he to breed prolifically, a host of future terrorists.

Islam is the religion of terror, in case you have not noticed, a cancer on the pristine face of this planet and to humanity. The Solar System would be much better off without them. Period.

--Boris

120 posted on 03/12/2004 7:53:18 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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