Posted on 03/01/2004 1:02:07 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
Don't get too upset LVD, I just wanted to see just how attached you were to your belief. For if you take your statement "I believe all certitude is overrated," to its logical conclusion, then it's a wonder why you even bother to post any comments, let alone communicate with your fellow man, knowing in advance that anything you say or believe is already mere dust in the wind.
We might as well just shut down all the internet chat rooms and discussion boards, for if there is nothing certain to know, other than all certitudes are overrated, then lets not bother with even trying to get at the truth of something via discussion, dialouge, insult, pain, suffering, scientific method or what-have-you, since the final product is no more certain that the question that caused the search to begin with.
So just why are you posting anything on the 'net, let alone here, if your are already uncertain as to the truth of what you posted?
My real intention is to find out why you think the way you do, and why you felt in was necessary to tell they world that you believe all certitude is overrated. (And who, exactly, is overrating it? philosophers? scientists? Republicans?)
Excellent idea!
Care to back up that statement? Or is this more of your empty rhetoric?
I would prefer that we send all the fundamentalists off to do missionary work in Iran.
So you need certitude to post comments and communicate with your fellow man. I think you live in a world of delusion. There is very little certainty in this world. I know it is comforting to think we live in a world of certainty - but that is illusion.
"When I was a child I spoke as a child I understood as a child I thought as a child; but when I became a man I put away childish things." I Cor. xiii. 11.
BTW: the opposite of certainty is not "Dust in the Wind" but "Dust in the Wind" was a cool Kansas song.
We might as well just shut down all the internet chat rooms and discussion boards, for if there is nothing certain to know, other than all certitudes are overrated, then lets not bother with even trying to get at the truth of something via discussion, dialouge, insult, pain, suffering, scientific method or what-have-you, since the final product is no more certain that the question that caused the search to begin with.
Nonsense. Knowledge is not contingent on certainty. Rarely is there one answer to a question or only one way to do things. Rarely is there only one truth (BTW: truth is not contingent on certainty). Certainty is something we crave but rarely find. No, your certainty is an illusion(IMHO). The only place I know of that is truly trying to offer certainty is religion.
So just why are you posting anything on the 'net, let alone here, if your are already uncertain as to the truth of what you posted?
"What is truth?" - Pontius Pilot
One can and does have knowledge without the childish need for certainty. I have knowledge of the "truth" but I don't claim certain knowledge of the truth - from my understanding the only one that has certain knowledge or the truth is God and I am not 100% sure God exists.
My real intention is to find out why you think the way you do, and why you felt in was necessary to tell they world that you believe all certitude is overrated. (And who, exactly, is overrating it? philosophers? scientists? Republicans?)
Well if you wanted to know why I think the way I do - why didn't you ask me rather than starting out by trying to pick a fight. "is Overrated" is a colloquialism and is commonly used in an information context - I was not trying to be literal. Let me break it down for you (to use hip jargon) - I can't point to one thing in this world that possess certainty. I would not say there is no certainty because absolute statements require certainty. Certainty is an illusion that meets a childish need - the need to feel life has certainty and Mom and Dad will make everything better. Unfortunately that is not real. Nothing in life is dependent on certitude: knowledge, truth, love, life - none of these are dependent on certitude. Let me turn this back to you - in what do you claim certitude (other that God)?
Do you have a really solid source for this? Can you back it up or is this more of your emptry rhetoric?
Rarely is there one answer to a question or only one way to do things.
So Ronzo isn't wrong. So why bother attacking what he said?
"What is truth?" - Pontius Pilot
"What's one more martini?" - Airline Pilot
The only place I know of that is truly trying to offer certainty is religion.
Are you sure?
VadeRetro: Do you have a really solid source for this? Can you back it up or is this more of your emptry rhetoric?
VadeRetro - always here to try and stir up a fight.
It's an opinion, nimrod.
The source is my mind and my life's experience. I am not claiming I am certain (teehee) or claiming it is fact.
LVD: The only place I know of that is truly trying to offer certainty is religion.
VadeRetro: Are you sure?
No. (you would think you might catch on by now)
LVD: Rarely is there one answer to a question or only one way to do things.
VadeRetro: So Ronzo isn't wrong. So why bother attacking what he said?
So you think there is one answer to every question. OK.
What do women like? (you are claiming there is one answer)
How was the universe created? (you are claiming there is one answer)
(you don't spend much time thinking out your statements, do you)
Even Behe accepts evolution. He doesn't think it accounts for absolutely everything. But he ain't no creo.
Nor is he a biologist. It's d@mn close to unanimity among biologists.
You don't need research to show that, whatever it is, God could have left it looking just like that.
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