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Gibson favors gore over drama [Phila. Inquirer gives Passion 2-star review]
2/24/2004
| Carrie Rickey
Posted on 02/25/2004 5:03:14 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: new cruelty
I managed to make it all the way through. The author clearly misses the point of the movie. Why does she think it has the title it does? Best guess - she is one of the ones out there protesting that as soon as the movie opens, pogroms will occur all over America.
To: foreverfree
This work of obvious devotion may well be the first spiritual splatter film. What was she expecting, Scripture Lite? I haven't seen the film but the reputable reviews I've read--even those critical of the movie--assert that the violence is historically accurate.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:32:52 AM PST
by
grellis
(Che cosa ha mangiato?)
To: Judith Anne
I think Mel Gibson's film is important for many reasons, but one of them is the example of Perfect Love, and Perfect Obedience.Amen, I have seen the movie and one very important scene is Jesus saying how He is laying down His life, no one is taking it.
He does it because of His Perfect Love for us and His perfect obedience to the Father
The violence is necessary to show the magnitude of both
No one seems to mention the Resurrection at the end.
It was shown in a way never seen on film, brief but amazing joyful
Also I am Italian and I am not offended by the depiction of the Roman guards.
Rome was very brutal in its treatment of prisoners.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:33:47 AM PST
by
apackof2
(I won't be satisfied until I am too smart for my own good)
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To: foreverfree
The Passion of the Christ is too much Good Friday and not enough Easter Sunday.
Reviewer has a good point here
The main fact about Christ's life was his RESURRECTION which was the final proof of his divinity
This should have been the HAPPY ending and main thrust of the movie as it also is supposed to portend the reurrection of human kinds bodies for the final judegment etc etc
If Gibson left this out then I think he has some subliminal preoccupation with blood and gore
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:36:34 AM PST
by
uncbob
To: foreverfree
If this film were about the murder of Matthew Shepherd, and done in EXACTLY the same way, the reviewer would hardly be able to type his review for the throes of multiple orgasms coursing through him.
It would be the greatest movie ever, mankind's ultimate artistic achievement, worthy of every Oscar.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:36:59 AM PST
by
Skooz
(My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
Most Italians don't engage in the silly behavior many other groups do in this respect. That is why it is only a very few who protest the Godfather, the Sopranos, Etc. Most Italians, when faced with this type of idiocy, simply remind others about the positive contributions that need no deep explanation. Other groups, which I will not name, don't do that and simply whine, moan, complain, and act like little babies.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:37:21 AM PST
by
chris1
To: foreverfree
At its worst, this story of the price of redemption places an inexplicably high value on pain. Who would have guessed that Gibson would turn The Greatest Story Ever Told into the grisliest? Isn't this exactly the point Gibson may have been trying to make? Aren't we asked to simply watch what He endured for us???
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:37:30 AM PST
by
grellis
(Che cosa ha mangiato?)
To: foreverfree
[Phila. Inquirer gives Passion 2-star review]
And you REALLY expected anything else???
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:39:01 AM PST
by
NordP
(While our nation is at war w/ worldwide terrorism, the democrat party is at war w/ the President.)
To: Skooz
If this film were about the murder of Matthew Shepherd, and done in EXACTLY the same way, the reviewer would hardly be able to type his review for the throes of multiple orgasms coursing through him.
Yeah and all the reviewers thought SILENCE OF THE LAMBS was a big hit
I thought it was mindless gore
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:40:34 AM PST
by
uncbob
To: Skooz
Well, yeah, take "Saving Private Ryan," for example.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:40:44 AM PST
by
NordP
(While our nation is at war w/ worldwide terrorism, the democrat party is at war w/ the President.)
To: NordP
I love Saving Private Ryan and have the DVD. My wife can't stand to watch it because of the violence. We are going to see The Passion this Friday night. I wonder if she will be able to sit through it.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:42:51 AM PST
by
Skooz
(My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
To: foreverfree
"...recycling discredited interpretations of the Hebrew high priests' roles in the crucifixion." Huh? Discredited by whom? It's quite clear in the New Testament what roles the priests played.
To: camle
The reviewer doesn't seem to know that the meaning of "Passion" means SUFFERING. The suffering of the Christ is the focus of the movie, so to be accurate as to Christ's suffering, the gore is a necessary part of the movie.
To: Skooz
Tell her to do what I intend to do....watch through her fingers and plug her ears. Scary visuals don't have as much of an impact if the sound is down.
It's important to see.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:49:03 AM PST
by
NordP
(While our nation is at war w/ worldwide terrorism, the democrat party is at war w/ the President.)
To: HopeSprings
The interpretations are "discredited" because she doesn't like them.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:50:18 AM PST
by
Skooz
(My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
...it portrays ROMAN soldiers as the actual killers of Christ. They did it at the behest of the Jews. Jesus was charged with blasphemy, which was not a crime under Roman law. Blasphemy was punishable by death under Jewish law; the Jews asked the Romans to carry out the sentence for them.
Jesus was killed by the Romans,
at the request of the Jews,
on behalf all of mankind.
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posted on
02/25/2004 5:57:57 AM PST
by
wai-ming
To: wai-ming
So if you pressured me to kill your wife because she violated your religion [as the Jews pressured the Romans to kill Jesus] that would make me less of a killer?
To: apackof2
The violence is necessary to show the magnitude of both In addition, Christ's suffering joins Him to the suffering of all humanity...throughout the ages humans have died in degrading, humiliating ways from all causes, natural and murderous...the suffering of Christ means that He can say, to anyone, "I share your pain." We have a Savior, not only on a sunny day, but in the agony of our own end, whatever it may be.
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posted on
02/25/2004 6:04:58 AM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
To: NordP
I'm not surprised at all by Rickey's review. She did give THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST four stars, calling it "audacious". She's probably not interested in a film that details the truth about Our Lord.
One giant surprise-the local liberal rag, THE PHILADELPHIA WEEKLY, gave THE PASSION a rave review! The reviewer mentioned "his lapsed Irish Catholic Baggage", said how much he cried while watching the film, and said the message of the film is love. He also said that years from now, when the furor has died down, this film will be recognized for the masterpiece that it is.
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