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Roe vs. Wade heads back to courtroom
San Antonio Express-News ^
| 02/20/2004
| Maro Robbins
Posted on 02/20/2004 4:46:03 PM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: Jeff Gordon
You're here to play footsy Jeff. Why not simply state why you are here?
To: Jeff Gordon
She's actually been against abortion for quite a few years now, after converting to Christianity. She's one of the most vocal advocates against it, and you really can't ask anyone to be more of an activist than she is. She claims she was used as a pawn by the lawyers at the time when she didn't know any better, and I wouldn't put it past them.
I've read a fair amount concerning Roe, and I'm inclined to believe that her conversion is genuine.
Qwinn
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posted on
02/20/2004 7:21:27 PM PST
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Qwinn
To: Qwinn
I do too.
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posted on
02/20/2004 7:27:44 PM PST
by
Judith Anne
(Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
To: Qwinn
I'm inclined to believe that her conversion is genuine. I never claimed her conversion was not genuine. I did not and I do not.
She was being used as a pawn for one side in 1973. She is now being used as as pawn by the other side 2004. Yawn.
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02/20/2004 7:34:18 PM PST
by
Jeff Gordon
(arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
To: Jeff Gordon
Um. So who is "using" her now? She's written books, she heads a pro-life organization, I believe. If you're going to claim she's a pawn -now-, then anyone who is activist for any cause is a pawn of someone else.
Me, I'm very very pro-life, and not for religious reasons (being agnostic). So whose pawn am I?
Qwinn
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posted on
02/20/2004 7:39:08 PM PST
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Qwinn
To: Jeff Gordon
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posted on
02/20/2004 7:41:39 PM PST
by
Tribune7
(Vote Toomey April 27)
To: Jeff Gordon
She was being used as a pawn for one side in 1973. She is now being used as as pawn by the other side 2004. Yawn.......and what side are you coming from?
To: Qwinn
Me, I'm very very pro-life, and not for religious reasons (being agnostic). Me too. So what?
So whose pawn am I?
I do not know. Show me some articles, books, publications or something that shows who is using you as a pawn. Show who is pointing to you and saying "See! Qwinn is now pro-life."
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posted on
02/20/2004 7:44:15 PM PST
by
Jeff Gordon
(arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
To: Tribune7
she never had an abortion Thank you. I did not know that.
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posted on
02/20/2004 7:45:48 PM PST
by
Jeff Gordon
(arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
To: He Rides A White Horse
what side are you coming from? The side that says the end does not justify the means.
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02/20/2004 7:47:01 PM PST
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Jeff Gordon
(arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
To: Jeff Gordon
Uh, no one is really pointing at her and saying "See! She is pro-life!" -SHE- is the one saying it, over and over and over. She's speaking for herself. She didn't do that in 1973. In 1973, they put words in her mouth. Hell, if I remember correctly even then she didn't actually have the abortion. That's my point.
Perhaps we're defining being "used as a pawn" differently.
By your definition, it seems to me like any spokesman for any cause would qualify as a pawn.
Qwinn
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posted on
02/20/2004 7:49:32 PM PST
by
Qwinn
To: Jeff Gordon
The side that says the end does not justify the means.In this particular case, the 'end' is the end of wanton slaughter........how do you feel about that?
To: Jeff Gordon
Qwinn says:
Me, I'm very very pro-life, and not for religious reasons (being agnostic).
You say: Me too. So what?
I doubt that......I doubt you are very, very pro-life; as a matter of fact I would guess you are a 'moderate'.
How else could you say both sides are engaged in playing a pawn?
There are two sides here: Pro, and Against.
To: Jeff Gordon
You're not interested in any truth here, you simply want to muddy the waters and sow confusion with your open ended statements.
To: He Rides A White Horse
I agree.
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02/20/2004 8:06:34 PM PST
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Judith Anne
(Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
To: He Rides A White Horse
You're not interested in any truth here, I really am, but you can not or will not see it. Let's leave it at that before people who are on the same side of an issue get needlessly pissed off at each other.
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02/20/2004 8:10:21 PM PST
by
Jeff Gordon
(arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
To: Jeff Gordon
I really am, but you can not or will not see it.I see it alright.
No checkered flag for you today, Mr Gordon.
To: Jeff Gordon
I really am, but you can not or will not see it......very well then, tell us how you feel, or what you are thinking.
Please keep it to 10000 words or less.
To: Jeff Gordon
You are putting forth the idea that both sides of the issue are using pawns.......and regardless of what side you take on this issue, you promoting a very cynical point of view.
The point of view that says neither side can be trusted.
I don't know about you, but I am really, really pro-life......and I don't subscribe to what you are saying.
What do you think pro-lifers are trying to accomplish? Controlling a woman's body as the pro-abortion industry types would submit.........or is it something more noble than that?
I'm sure of the answer to that one.
To: Judith Anne
He thinks he is going to stake out 'no man's land' as a position, and debate from there.
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