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Conservatives Need to Get Real
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

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To: George W. Bush
There is a conservative to vote for so I'm assuming you will be voting.
221 posted on 02/11/2004 3:59:23 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Henrietta
Darn tootin!

Look, it's simple. If they want conservative votes, they can govern conservatively.

And my standards aren't real high either.

They want my vote? Fine. Earn it.
222 posted on 02/11/2004 3:59:54 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: My2Cents
***We just don't want to beat the Dems, we want to pulverize them into powder, and then sweep the powder onto the ash heap of history.***

I agree--but I want to see them cry first, too!

The way they're acting right now, they're going to self-destruct without a whole lot more help from anyone. :-)
223 posted on 02/11/2004 4:03:55 PM PST by homemom (Proudly voting for President George W. Bush)
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To: Jim Cane
We have an extremely narrow, paper majority in the Senate that cannot be in control as long as the Dems have any hope of regaining power at all. We have Republicans who vote w/the Dems. So, there goes the *sympathetic Congress* argument.

Being a *principled conservative* is the best present the Dems have had in ages. They are using it to marginalize the entire right.

If we had a Republican super majority, w/o a Republican President, we would not have gridlock. We would have deals being cut by the Dems in order that the business of the country proceeds.

I think the POTUS has to do the political equivalent of driving a professional obstacle course, rather than just choosing brakes or gas at the edge of a cliff. And he has to do it w/a car full of hornets and some live fire along the route, as well.

No President can *kick* the Congress into submission. Our Constitution won't allow it and if any President tried it, it would be usurption of power, fascism, dictatorship and he would be impeached....rightly.

As to the government stealing your money, that is exactly the talking points I am hearing today from die-hard Democrats. "Stealing us blind" is another one. Are you on their email alert list?
224 posted on 02/11/2004 4:06:04 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Texas_Dawg
***GWB is probably the most conservative President in the history of the US, fwiw.***

Here are two big, humongous examples that prove that he is conservative, God-fearing, and life-loving--
*Ban against Partial-Birth Abortion
*Against gay marriage

Many more examples, but these two are two of the most important ones that will raise America's values as a whole.
225 posted on 02/11/2004 4:06:57 PM PST by homemom (Proudly voting for President George W. Bush)
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To: Wolfstar
One thing you are definitely right about is the uselessness of arguing with the "pitchfork brigade" and their kin in other minor parties.

It may increase your self-esteem to call those who criticize GWB Buchananites, but you're deluding yourself, and may be contributing to Bush's electoral defeat. Why don't you grow up, and try to get Bush to act like a Republican, instead of insulting conservatives who refuse to support socialism and open borders?

226 posted on 02/11/2004 4:07:42 PM PST by mrustow
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To: My2Cents
We just don't want to beat the Dems, we want to pulverize them into powder, and then sweep the powder onto the ash heap of history.

And grab all the patronage we can carry for ourselves and our cronies.

227 posted on 02/11/2004 4:11:02 PM PST by mrustow
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To: My2Cents
***I can't even fathom what their motivation or thinking is. As I've said before, to pitch this President out of office over one or two issues, without regard to what that means to the war on terror, US security in general, our position in the world, and the likelihood of three or four Supreme Ct. nominations in the next term, isn't "conservative" at all, as far as I'm concerned.***

You are absolutely right! There will NEVER be a president who will satisfy everyone on every issue. Do you KErry supporters think you will agree with EVERY ONE of his decision?

We must vote for the man who has character to stand up to do what he thinks is right, despite polls or pressure from either side. President Bush does this. We MUST re-elect him for the good of our country. It's not just a war against terror, it's a war of good vs. evil.
228 posted on 02/11/2004 4:12:10 PM PST by homemom (Proudly voting for President George W. Bush)
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To: KantianBurke
"CONTRACT WITH AMERICA PART II please. Don't know if Dubya will go for it though...."

It worked once -- and Big Time -- but that was more in response to fending off an evil Bubba in office.

There seems to be few high-profile members of the House or Senate (except for Tancredo and a couple of others) willing to risk their own personal power for the sake of spearheading a definitive GOP agenda...

Might the evidence suggest that this may be because the "new" GOP no longer considers a committment to conservatism crucial to its base?

229 posted on 02/11/2004 4:12:46 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
It worked once -- and Big Time -- but that was more in response to fending off an evil Bubba in office.

And why did we have an evil Bubba in office? Because of so called "conservatives" who wanted to "send a message", that's why.

230 posted on 02/11/2004 4:17:11 PM PST by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: Howlin
LOL!

Just another be--ach!!

231 posted on 02/11/2004 4:20:11 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Bogey
Sounds like 4-5 million of those condescending conservatives will be staying home

In your dreams.

And God forbid we should MAKE YOU MAD, you cry babies.

232 posted on 02/11/2004 4:21:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: kitkat
They try to tell us they're more conservative than the rest of us because they want "smaller" government.

In point of fact, those that want smaller government are indeed more conservative than those who want larger government.

That issue aside, there's a lot to be said for pragmatism. Criticism has its place, but on election day conservatives need to set their disagreements aside and vote for Bush/Cheney. Once the administration returns for a second term, the pressure can resume to begin moving right.

233 posted on 02/11/2004 4:29:05 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Austin Willard Wright; Sloth; Grut
Having said all that, I intend to do whatever I can to reelect President Bush. The reason is simple. The alternative is unthinkable.
234 posted on 02/11/2004 4:32:04 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: DManA
He does when he doesn't know the mic is on. Recall his comment to Cheney about Adam Clymer.

And since I am only one person, *y'all* doesn't apply. But since I was speaking to a group of you, my use of the plural was accurate.

*Kook* is not a swear word. Please hit abuse and tell the Admin Mod where I used a swear word.

I think the problem w/y'all is that you just cannot stand it that so many of us appreciate, love and respect George W Bush. In fact, like Perot, I wonder at times if it is personal? I know the Dems hate him irrationally and I have come to accept that the true conservatives do, as well.

Too bad.
235 posted on 02/11/2004 4:33:29 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: homemom; onyx; ohioWfan
It's not just a war against terror, it's a war of good vs. evil.

Thank you so much for saying this. I've believed for some time that the battles we are fighting, both the political battles here, and the real battles overseas, are not battles of ideology or party. They are battles in a wider spiritual war for the soul of this nation. The self-appointed purists are, frankly, MIA in this battle. Anyone MIA abets and comforts the enemy. If they want to sit out the election, they have my blessing. Let those who understand what is really going on in this nation do the heavy lifting and the necessary spiritual warfare. We do not need to be encumbered by incessant naysayers who neurotically crave our attention. Kick them to the side of the road, and let's keep moving.

236 posted on 02/11/2004 4:38:31 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: My2Cents
Thanx. I agree whole-heartedly w/your comments on our President.

I love your tagline!!
237 posted on 02/11/2004 4:38:50 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: George W. Bush
Conservatives are the swing voters.

And you can 'swing' one of two ways, George.

You can swing to our strong, capable President who is protecting this nation, supporting the military, and bringing us back towards morality........OR, you can swing toward John Kerry, the UN over our sovereignty, disregard for the needs of our military, higher taxes...........

Those are your choices, George. That's it.

238 posted on 02/11/2004 4:41:13 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: homemom
All the stuff now surfacing about Kerry's dishonorable conduct upon his return from Vietnam will make his bandwagon a short trip over the cliff.
239 posted on 02/11/2004 4:41:31 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: My2Cents; homemom
A war of good versus evil.


BUMP
240 posted on 02/11/2004 4:41:35 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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