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[goodnesswins]

The "smart" ones make you THINK you are a little smarty, you smarmy intellectual....because the "smart" ones (conservatives) aren't stupid enough to spend time worrying about who is smart and who is not....we're busy, building businesses, a country, other countries, while you spend your time analgazing and criticizing those who MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

[Moosilauke]

Total BS. To get this level of stupidity, you'd have to go to a philosophy department. Show me a scientist or engineer who has actually used his knowledge to make something (a new invention or a new business) and I'll show you a conservative. The saying used to be that with the fall of the Berlin Wall, the only marxist organization left was the Duke University English department. I guess the philosophy department deserves inclusion also.

[machman]

quote:

The Latin word educare, means to grow or bring forth. Education involves open inquiry, patience, experimentation, honesty, and the ability to know you don't know.

The opposite of this process is indoctrination. Indoctrination is putting in - not drawing out. It is an imposing of information, not a search for truth, it empowers the teacher not the student.

What we have here is a perfect example of inflated self-worth.

I found a study on the internet that explains soooooo much of what I have experience with some people in this world. Here is the link:

Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments

Abstract

People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.

I have always believed this, basically, a little knowledge in a subject is always more dangerous than none. I've always had a saying for myself, the more I know about a subject, the more realized how little I really know about it. This study nails it. And probably explains 90% of of the liberal professors out there.

[Phantom Lord]

Can someone name for me the last republican/conservative who was not portrayed as, or called stupid by the liberal press, democrats, and academics? Eisenhower maybe.

[Moosilauke]

how could he be dim enough not only to believe such an absurd notion, but to hail it publicly?

Because he lives in fantasyland, with tenure protecting him from the real world. When your only measure of success is in convincing other tenured professors to publish your articles, it's very easy (and convenient) to convince each other that they're all full of brilliant insights. In the real world, engineers, scientists, or programmers don't get to play that game. Talking a good line counts for nothing when the bridge collapses or the program crashes.

[Phantom Lord]

Members of academia tend to be a bit smarter than average.

Those who can do. Those who can't teach

[lepton]

And actual surveys tend to demonstrate that Conservatives are better educated, and overwhelmingly more politically aware - in the sense that when they vote, they have some idea what the issues are, and which candidate stands for which. As example:

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To: Howlin

From http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/

Strangers on a Train Wreck
Here's a fascinating tidbit from this week's CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll. The following table shows the proportion of "Republicans/Republican leaners" and "Democrats/Democratic leaners" who said they'd "never heard of" each of the Democratic presidential candidates:

Candidate	Reps	Dems
Clark	17%	22%
Dean	14%	17%
Edwards	25%	28%
Gephardt	14%	21%
Kerry	18%	20%
Lieberman	7%	11%

For the most part these differences aren't huge, but it's nonetheless striking that in every case, Republicans were more likely than Democrats to have heard of the Democratic candidates--especially since Dems are in a position to vote on these guys in the next few months. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that people who are more informed about politics tend to be Republicans.

42 posted on 01/12/2004 11:35:58 AM PST by lepton

[lepton]

From http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/

Strangers on a Train Wreck
Here's a fascinating tidbit from this week's CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll. The following table shows the proportion of "Republicans/Republican leaners" and "Democrats/Democratic leaners" who said they'd "never heard of" each of the Democratic presidential candidates:

Candidate	Reps	Dems
Clark	17%	22%
Dean	14%	17%
Edwards	25%	28%
Gephardt	14%	21%
Kerry	18%	20%
Lieberman	7%	11%

For the most part these differences aren't huge, but it's nonetheless striking that in every case, Republicans were more likely than Democrats to have heard of the Democratic candidates--especially since Dems are in a position to vote on these guys in the next few months. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that people who are more informed about politics tend to be Republicans.

[RandallFlagg]

G'mornin', Phantom! How's the baby? Y'all getting much sleep?

Yes, I'm still taking apart the lefties at the Metallica forums...

[Brian Allen]

<< Kind of flies in the face of "Conservatives think, Liberals feel", doesn't it? >>

Nope.

As this pathologically-infantile member of the verbalized bowel bubbles' brigades so well demonstrates here, those who suffer the "liberal" psychosis are skilled only at verbalizing their feelings.

Which they feel are their "thoughts.

[TankerKC]

If, as John Stuart Mill said, stupid people are generally conservative, then there are lots of conservatives we will never hire."

This guys teaches Logic?

[Cubs Fan]

it seems to me rather ironic that this academic has not a shred of research to back up his claim.

I for one would love to see an unbiased measurement of average and median IQs for liberals and conservatives. I think we would do quite well.

[NYC GOP Chick]

"Mill's analysis may go some way towards explaining the power of the Republican party in our society and the relative scarcity of Republicans in academia. Players in the NBA tend to be taller than average. There is a good reason for this. Members of academia tend to be a bit smarter than average. There is a good reason for this too."

Maybe this picknose (thanks for the new word, 'pod!) can explain why many NBA players are Republicans and why most in the military seem to be conservative...

Oh, and having been through prep school, a Seven Sisters college and an MBA program, I can't say I agree totally about members of academia being "smarter than average." I'm not saying that they're stupid, just that they tend to be navel-gazers.

[TC Rider]

Professor,

If you're so smart..

..why are you about to get caught in a shit storm?

Did you believe that conservatives can't read? That Republicans would not notice your inflammatory rhetoric in the Duke Chronicle.

Just wait till we start mailing copies of your article to the Alumni Department in lieu of donations.

I am so glad I'm not you.

TC Rider

[Helms]

Excellent response.

[Phantom Lord]

I get plenty of sleep. Though I only sleep a few hours a night. Always have. My wife could use more sleep.

Reagan sleeps, eats, pukes, farts. Kind of like a college kid!

[skeeter]

I've always had a saying for myself, the more I know about a subject, the more realized how little I really know about it.

Yeah, me too. The real problem is how to avoid becoming socially & intellectually paralyzed by the cognizance of these limitations:)

[JoJo Gunn]

The Latin word "sinestra", the root for sinister, means "left".

Our forefathers always knew the dangers of liberalism.

[EdReform]

BTTT for later...

[Cooter]

Can someone name for me the last republican/conservative who was not portrayed as, or called stupid by the liberal press, democrats, and academics? Eisenhower maybe.

Richard M. Nixon. He was portrayed as smart but mean and paranoid. Conservatives are generally portrayed as mean, stupid, or both. William F. Buckley and Condi Rice both come to mind as breaking the stereotype.

[philosofy123]

People with the worst grades gravitates to Philosophy, sociology, journalism,....other liberal art crap. The smart ones go to engineering, and medical schools.