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Operative Sought al-Qaida's Help in Iraq
Netscape News ^ | 02/09/04 | ROBERT H. REID AP

Posted on 02/09/2004 12:05:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:52 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Cap Huff
This would be number 4, but it is so vague it could fit any of the three other stories:

Q: Gregor Mayer from German Press Agency. Not having seen this report in The New York Times, can you disclose under what circumstances this memo came into the public -- in the public space?

Kimmitt: Sure. We picked this memo up from the courier as part of ongoing military and security operations inside this country.
21 posted on 02/09/2004 1:43:01 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff; Dog; Pikamax
If we capture enough of the different news stories floating around we might get the actual happening!

I have been watching the way the headlines are getting spun.

NY Times trying hiding....U.S. Says Files Seek Qaeda Aid in Iraq Conflict .....

Cnn tried lying>>>Iraqis want al-Quida to drive US out.....

However the CNN international now has.....

Document appears to seek al Qaeda help in Iraq...

Subheadline has.....

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A 17-page document seized at a suspected al Qaeda safe house in Baghdad appears to have requested al Qaeda's help in sparking a civil war in Iraq, setting Shiite Muslims against Sunni Muslims, U.S. officials said Monday.

22 posted on 02/09/2004 2:07:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Document appears to seek al Qaeda help in Iraq

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A 17-page document seized at a suspected al Qaeda safe house in Baghdad appears to have requested al Qaeda's help in sparking a civil war in Iraq, setting Shiite Muslims against Sunni Muslims, U.S. officials said Monday.

Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said Monday officials believe the letter was written by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian believed connected to al Qaeda, and meant for Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

The document, first reported in The New York Times, takes credit for 25 suicide attacks in Iraq, and says U.S. troops make easy targets.

But the writer states that few Iraqis have been willing to support his fighters beyond offering them refuge, and said they will "lose the pretext" for waging attacks if a new Iraqi government takes power as scheduled at the end of June.

Dexter Filkins, a New York Times reporter who was given access to the document by the U.S. military, told CNN they prove nothing "other than the fact that these operatives in Iraq want some help."

Further, he said, the author of the document was "deferential" to the recipient, "basically saying we're not trying to compete," but we're ready to do what you want us to do.

"Assuming it was authentic ... it was a stark admission that things were not going very well for them," he said on CNN's "American Morning."

In Washington, Secretary of State Colin Powell said the document provided a "very revealing" look at the strategy of at least one element of the opposition to the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq.

"They describe the weaknesses they have in their efforts to undercut the coalition's efforts, but at the same time it shows they haven't given up," Powell said.

Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman Dan Senor agreed, saying the letter "clearly outlines what has been working from our perspective."

"The document expresses great concern about our efforts to hand over sovereignty to the Iraqis," Senor said. "In fact, it explicitly says that once Iraqis are in control of their government, it will make it virtually impossible for the foreign terrorists to operate."

The letter was on a computer disk captured in January along with Hassan Ghul, a man identified as an al Qaeda courier, senior coalition officials said. Ghul identified Zarqawi as the letter's author, one official said.

In a speech to the United Nations February 5, 2003, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell cited Zarqawi's presence in northern Iraq as evidence of a "sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network."

On Monday, Powell said the Zarqawi document "certainly lends some credence" to those claims.

U.S. officials said last month that mounting evidence suggests Zarqawi was involved in some of last year's major attacks in Iraq -- against Italian forces, U.N. headquarters in Baghdad and the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf. (Full story)

The first attack killed 16 Italian soldiers, two Italian civilians and nine Iraqis in Nasiriya. More than 20 people, including United Nations envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello, were killed in the headquarters bombing. The mosque attack in Najaf killed 126 people, including a Shiite spiritual leader.

Zarqawi, who is suspected of masterminding the slaying of an American diplomat in Amman, Jordan, moved into Iraq to plan the attacks, officials believe. Although not a member of al Qaeda, he is affiliated with the terrorist organization, officials say.

Fewer troops to patrol larger area starting in April

Also Monday, the U.S. Army division taking command of Baghdad in April will be a more mobile, less obtrusive force, tasked with patrolling a larger area with fewer troops, military officials said.

The 1st Cavalry, which takes over authority of Baghdad from the 1st Armored Division on April 15, will rely on armored humvees rather than tanks and fighting vehicles, Col. Mike Formica said Monday.

The 1st Cavalry will have fewer troops, but will be responsible for a wider area than the 1st Armored Division, said Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling. The new jurisdiction also covers Baghdad, but extends west and north of the city as well, Hertling said.

"It was a conscious decision by the part of the Army to take what was an armored brigade combat team and transform us into a motorized brigade combat team," Formica said. "The difference is we will be much more mobile and less obtrusive in many cases."

U.S. officials have long talked of the need to make the Army less visible and less obtrusive, particularly in the capital.

Part of the aim is to cut down on what are seen as "attacks of opportunity" against U.S. soldiers and to allow the Iraqi police and security forces to fill the gap.

U.S. officials say Baghdad still needs about 10,000 more police officers. The city, which is the size of Los Angeles, California, has 9,000 trained police officers, Hertling said.

Despite regular attacks, the military has made significant gains against improvised explosive devices -- home-made bombs that have been the weapons of choice against U.S. soldiers. In January, troops found and defused more bombs than were detonated, Hertling said.

Other developments

• Two U.S. soldiers were killed and six others wounded while conducting ordnance disposal operations near the town of Sinjar, close to the Syria border, a U.S. military official said Monday. "It's our understanding the accident happened as part of ordnance disposal and not as part of a hostile attack," Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said. The deaths bring the total of U.S. troops killed in Iraq since the war began in March to 535.

• A United Nations team's study of whether elections in Iraq are possible this summer is "going extremely well" according to Secretary General Kofi Annan, who spoke with reporters Monday. The team is expected to meet with a broad range of Iraqis. Annan said he expects to have a recommendation by the end of the month.

CNN's Jane Arraf contributed to this report.

23 posted on 02/09/2004 2:10:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
CNN International is still not quite reflecting my understanding of what the letter purports to be. If the letter was written by al-Zarqawi to al-Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan it was just an al-Qaeda affiliate writing to the head office, so to speak.

By the way, I would lean heavy on the side of thinking the letter is genuine, but the story about how it came into US hands is garbled.
24 posted on 02/09/2004 2:15:34 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Cap Huff
Cap look at this lead sentence in the CNN article.

-- A 17-page document seized at a suspected al Qaeda safe house in Baghdad

See how confusing this is.....if this is correct it wasn't found on Ghul.....but in Zarqawi's safehouse.

25 posted on 02/09/2004 2:17:30 PM PST by Dog
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To: All
And the link:

Document appears to seek al Qaeda help in Iraq

26 posted on 02/09/2004 2:18:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Dog; Cap Huff
From the snippet at #18 we have:

Kimmitt: Sure. We picked this memo up from the courier as part of ongoing military and security operations inside this country.

27 posted on 02/09/2004 2:21:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Dog
Yes, in my post 20 I cut and pasted three different variations on the story, then Gen Kimmit was quoted giving a plain vanilla version that could fit any and all that are out there.
The safe house seizure location is one of the three.

I did earlier see the 17 page thing, but I don't remember where. I suppose a computer document could be in a 17 page format. It may be that when the document was printed out and shown to a reporter it took up 17 pages. I don't think that part of the story is important.
28 posted on 02/09/2004 2:24:57 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Dog; Cap Huff
Later in the CNN piece above we have this:

The letter was on a computer disk captured in January along with Hassan Ghul, a man identified as an al Qaeda courier, senior coalition officials said. Ghul identified Zarqawi as the letter's author, one official said.

29 posted on 02/09/2004 2:25:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
See how confused this is Cap has been saying it all day.

I think what he have here is a bit of misdirection......they don't want the bad guys to know how they got it.

30 posted on 02/09/2004 2:25:34 PM PST by Dog
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Cap Huff
If we are scratching our heads .....imagine what Al Qaeda is doing ....they don't know what Ghul had on him ......or who he gave..
31 posted on 02/09/2004 2:27:35 PM PST by Dog
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To: Cap Huff
Can you store a PDF file on a hard drive?
32 posted on 02/09/2004 2:29:03 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog; Cap Huff
OK..........

Now how about this Rat NY Times Reporter>>>>>:

Dexter Filkins, a New York Times reporter who was given access to the document by the U.S. military, told CNN they prove nothing "other than the fact that these operatives in Iraq want some help."

They don't want to let this get out of control and help President Bush!!!!!

But we have this:

In a speech to the United Nations February 5, 2003, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell cited Zarqawi's presence in northern Iraq as evidence of a "sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network."

On Monday, Powell said the Zarqawi document "certainly lends some credence" to those claims.

U.S. officials said last month that mounting evidence suggests Zarqawi was involved in some of last year's major attacks in Iraq -- against Italian forces, U.N. headquarters in Baghdad and the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf. (Full story)

The first attack killed 16 Italian soldiers, two Italian civilians and nine Iraqis in Nasiriya. More than 20 people, including United Nations envoy Sergio Vieira de Mello, were killed in the headquarters bombing. The mosque attack in Najaf killed 126 people, including a Shiite spiritual leader.

Zarqawi, who is suspected of masterminding the slaying of an American diplomat in Amman, Jordan, moved into Iraq to plan the attacks, officials believe. Although not a member of al Qaeda, he is affiliated with the terrorist organization, officials say. As far as I am concerned he is a member!!

33 posted on 02/09/2004 2:32:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Dog
Yes!

Converting it to HTML is tough though.

Snopercod and I looked at that when we were hot and heavy on the Calpowercrisis threads.

Of course we are cheap...
34 posted on 02/09/2004 2:34:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Could you burn a PDF file on to a CD ROM?
35 posted on 02/09/2004 2:37:37 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
PDF? Can't see why not.

Here's a press briefing from CPA given by Gen Kimmitt:

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2004/tr20040209-0434.html

Interesting tidbits. (Also a couple more names of guys who turned themselves in --- but they don't look to be card rank).
36 posted on 02/09/2004 2:40:41 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dog
Something is up...this a.m. about 6:20, retired Gen Bylerie(sp) was on Fox and Friends...he looked like the cat who ate the canary...he said that in 60 to 90 days there is going to be big news out of Iraq...when questioned he refused to divulge any info he has heard from the Pentagon, but it has to do with WMD....I thought this strange, why come on and say this and not elaborate....
37 posted on 02/09/2004 2:46:15 PM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: mystery-ak
Now that is a juicy tidbit!
38 posted on 02/09/2004 2:47:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Dog
Found a package I haven't seen before ( $39.95 ):

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39 posted on 02/09/2004 2:48:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: mystery-ak
Hmmmmm.
40 posted on 02/09/2004 2:54:20 PM PST by Dog
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