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On to Mars, at last Bush's space plan is the right stuff
NY Daily ^ | 1/17/04 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 01/18/2004 2:04:26 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: marron
Space exploration isn't something that can be out-sourced to Mejico...
21 posted on 01/18/2004 4:42:13 PM PST by ambrose
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To: nwrep
"Old Kraut has become a total Bush-bot, I see."

I see we 'Bush-bots' are in great company -- Dr. Krauthammer is a BRILLIANT man!

[BTW: Dr. K is a psychiatrist by training; I'm sure he would make time to schedule a counseling session for someone like you!]
23 posted on 01/18/2004 4:51:09 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: Iscool
"Uh, Nasa doesn't have any money...That's MY money you're talking about...And I don't want Nasa OR George B wasting it on some dead rock with no air around it..."

Okay. You can stay here and the rest of us will go to Mars without you :)

24 posted on 01/18/2004 4:53:59 PM PST by Windsong
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To: R. McSweet
Well, while it is a beautiful subject, it's also near orbit -- control of which is absolutely required... ya dig? :)
25 posted on 01/18/2004 4:55:15 PM PST by holo
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
. . . not mentioned by Dr K, but equally important is the following:


U.S. Eyes Space as Possible Battleground
Sun Jan 18, 2:27 PM ET

By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s plan to expand the exploration of space parallels U.S. efforts to control the heavens for military, economic and strategic gain.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld long has pushed for technology that could be used to attack or defend orbiting satellites as well as a costly program, heavily reliant on space-based sensors, to thwart incoming warheads.

Under a 1996 space policy adopted by then-President Bill Clinton (news - web sites) that remains in effect, the United States is committed to the exploration and use of outer space "by all nations for peaceful purposes for the benefit of all humanity."

"Peaceful purposes allow defense and intelligence-related activities in pursuit of national security and other goals," according to this policy. "Consistent with treaty obligations, the United States will develop, operate and maintain space control capabilities to ensure freedom of action in space, and if directed, deny such freedom of action to adversaries."

No country depends on space and satellites as its eyes and ears more than the United States, which accounted for as much as 95 percent of global military space spending in 1999, according to the French space agency CNES.

"Yet the threat to the U.S. and its allies in and from space does not command the attention it merits from the departments and agencies of the U.S. government charged with national security responsibilities," a congressionally chartered task force headed by Rumsfeld reported 10 days before Bush and he took office in 2001.

Theresa Hitchens of the private Center for Defense Information said the capabilities to conduct space warfare would move out of the realm of science fiction and into reality over the next 20 years or so.

"At the end of the day it will be political choices by governments, not technology, that determines if the nearly 50- year taboo against arming the heavens remains in place," she concluded in a recent study.

Outlining his election-year vision for space exploration last week, Bush called for a permanent base on the moon by 2020 as a launch pad for piloted missions to Mars and beyond.

One unspoken motivation may have been China's milestone launch in October of its first piloted spaceflight in earth orbit and its announced plan to go to the moon.

"I think the new initiative is driven by a desire to beat the Chinese to the moon," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a defense and space policy research group.

Among companies that could cash in on Bush's space plans are Lockheed Martin Corp., Boeing Co. and Northrop Grumman Corp., which do big business with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration as well as with the Pentagon (news - web sites).

The moon, scientists have said, is a source of potentially unlimited energy in the form of the helium 3 isotope -- a near perfect fuel source: potent, nonpolluting and causing virtually no radioactive byproduct in a fusion reactor.

"And if we could get a monopoly on that, we wouldn't have to worry about the Saudis and we could basically tell everybody what the price of energy was going to be," said Pike.

Gerald Kulcinski of the Fusion Technology Institute at the University of Wisconsin at Madison estimated the moon's helium 3 would have a cash value of perhaps $4 billion a ton in terms of its energy equivalent in oil.

Scientists reckon there are about 1 million tons of helium 3 on the moon, enough to power the earth for thousands of years. The equivalent of a single space shuttle load or roughly 30 tons could meet all U.S. electric power needs for a year, Kulcinski said by e-mail.

Bush's schedule for a U.S. return to the moon matches what experts say may be a dramatic militarization of space over the next two decades, even if the current ban on weapons holds.

Among other things, the Pentagon expects to spend at least $50 billion over the next five years to develop and field a multi-layered shield against incoming missiles that could deliver nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

Ultimately, this shield -- first proposed by President Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) and dubbed "Star Wars" by critics -- may include space-based interceptors, the first weapons in space, as opposed to sensors that guide weapons.

Last year, the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency obtained $14 million for research on basing three or more missile interceptors in space by the end of the decade for tests.

The plan would field satellites armed with multiple "hit-to-kill" interceptors capable of destroying a ballistic missile through a high-speed collision shortly after its launch, according to Wade Boese, research director of the private Arms Control Association. Such a system could also function as an anti-satellite weapon.

No decision has been made yet to deploy space-based interceptors as part of the U.S. missile defense program "although we are conducting research and development activities in that area," a Defense Department official said Friday.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040118/ts_nm/space_weapons_dc


26 posted on 01/18/2004 5:07:49 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: DrDeb
Well, if we have the money to do this, we had better do it NOW before a Dem gets into the Oval Office. I trust you think this article is a *good* thing?
27 posted on 01/18/2004 5:15:34 PM PST by Windsong
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To: Windsong
"Well, if we have the money to do this, we had better do it NOW before a Dem gets into the Oval Office. I trust you think this article is a *good* thing?"

ABSOLUTELY -- we can't permit China to control ANY aspect of outer space!
28 posted on 01/18/2004 5:44:08 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I heard we are going to set up a series of lights on the moon that spell out USA RULES whenever the moon is only visible as a crescent. We will then flash either a cross or a star of David symbol every 5 minutes inside of the dark part of the crescent just to freak out muslims.

Just wait, some muslim news service is going to actually believe that.
29 posted on 01/18/2004 9:13:05 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Cicero
Nothing Bush does will bring the country together, because a third of the country hates him. So it was a good move but badly handled.

Well, I agree with you and Krautie, that it's a good thing to do, and I wish X41 had been more successful with his attempt to launch a "beyond ISS" program back when it was needed to keep us focussed beyond these short-term goals.

I can see an argument that, despite no-doubt anticipated dissension (saw a polling report that half the Democrats polled about the space proposal changed their minds instantly when they were told it was Bush's idea, and promptly attacked it -- man, is that rabid or what?), Bush and his political people decided that it would be useful to be seen taking the high road; and without the intervention of 9/11 and Iraq, no doubt he'd have brought the initiative up previously. As a former governor of Texas, he's no doubt acutely aware that NASA is a national treasure.

Where I take a cautionary marker, though, is that I'm not convinced that this isn't an adroit way to say goodnight to the shuttle, Hubble and the other satellites that were designed to be shuttle-serviced for long-term service (Hubble will be allowed to degrade, a quiet press release announced), and the ISS -- after we as a country twisted arms to get other nations aboard ISS with us, including Canada and Japan.

Notice that the splashy stuff doesn't happen until Bush's successor is sworn in. The suggestion here is that Bush is using the announcement of prospective and contingent projects to mask the bad news that he's closing down the shuttle and ISS projects, while leaving the rest of the bad news to his successor -- an exercise called, when applied to The Rapist, "kicking the can down the road", something Slick most notoriously did in the case of North Korean nuclear proliferation, but also in Iraq and the War on Terror.

30 posted on 01/19/2004 2:16:12 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: DrDeb
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld long has pushed for technology that could be used to attack or defend orbiting satellites as well as a costly program, heavily reliant on space-based sensors, to thwart incoming warheads.

Last year's budget, promulgated in the wake of the Columbia accident, in April 2003, contained a little-remarked carve-out of the shuttle's operating budget for Homeland Security. The programs operated for Ridge's agency would be under IIRC the Air Force.

The size of the carve-out was a relatively large proportion of the shuttle program, and about 12% of the NASA budget, also IIRC. I was amazed, myself, that the President would do this so soon after a spectacularly fatal accident whose causes as of that time had yet to be determined.

31 posted on 01/19/2004 2:22:42 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: Cicero
So, if you're going to have a space program, the sensible thing is exactly what Bush proposes: set up a station on the moon and plan to head for Mars.

Ixnay. Why fight three gravity wells when two are quite enough? Best access to Mars would be from LEO. If something goes wrong while you're assembling your interplanetary vehicle, the safety of Earth is a quick spam-in-a-can trip home. Screw up on the moon, and we all get to watch your slow and pathetic demise on CNN live. Yu-glee.

The key is that the moon and LEO have the same basic challenge to safe operations: vacuum. Moon has two additional impediments, a gravity well and a days-long trip home (I'm omitting the hairiness of reentry from a translunar trajectory -- I think the Apollo 13 astronauts' reentry speed was quoted as 30,000 mph), versus one advantage, which is a place to stand while you try to operate your torque wrench.

32 posted on 01/19/2004 2:33:42 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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