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Schwarzenegger Proposes Billions in Cuts (No new taxes)
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| Jan 9, 2004
| TOM CHORNEAU
Posted on 01/09/2004 1:09:48 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Tamsey
Heck, I'm the first to admit I married well above me. But Mrs. Hb says she did too.
Life's good!
Hb
To: Amerigomag
You are quibbling over semantics. The license fee (VLF, not the VFL- get it straight) was reduced in the past by 1/3 and had a trigger that could undo the reduction in the case of budget difficulties. Schwarzenegger, soon after taking office, repealed the car tax increase. Please educate yourself on California state politics before further humilliating yourself.
After I stopped laughing at your pathetic "expository" on "passing versus signing", I got to your mindless repetition that the budget increased. Are you that intellectually lazy to wonder why its being reported that cuts are being proposed if the overall figure is higher? There are one-time fees which cannot be avoided which lead to the higher figure. The discretionary aspects of the budget are being trimmed.
I would suggest you actually read the proposed budget at
http://www.dof.ca.gov/HTML/BUD_DOCS/Bud_link.htm and educate yourself, but I doubt you could process the information.
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posted on
01/10/2004 12:25:55 AM PST
by
jagrmeister
(I'm not a conservative. I don't seek to conserve, I seek to reform.)
To: jagrmeister
It is obvious that you aren't going to listen to me so I can only suggest that you refer to pages 39 and 40 of the budget summary at the link you provided. Perhaps you might believe Schwarzenegger's explanation of the tax mechanics of the VLF offset.
Oh, you might also refer to that same document on page 11 which breaks down the sources of the expenditures. You'll notice, under the word "total" in the upper chart, that Governor Schwarzenegger proposes to spend $99.144 in fiscal 2004/2005 if Prop 57 and 58 pass in March.
Good luck to you.
To: ridesthemiles
**Probably breaking his pencil tip trying to figure out how he got the first calcs he posted with. **
:o)
To: Tamsey; Tempest
"Fees" are being used to get around requirements for 2/3 vote for tax increases. People in some States, WA I believe for one, finally got smart and passed a measure saying that ANY money going from private sources to government is a tax.
The fee scam is a politicians dream! With it, he can bypass any 2/3 vote requirement. Taxes can be raised without a vote for a tax increase on the politicians voting record. The politicians can pit the people against each other by singling out different people for a "fee increase" (aka "divide and conquer".) All those who don't use the service scream, "Right on! Why should I pay for that!!" (Tobacco tax sound familiar?) The second time it happens, the 10% taxed the first time scream, "Yeah, go ahead and tax em like you did me!", and the remaining 80% again scream, "Right on! Why should I pay for that!!"
All thats left to do is single out a different 10% of the population 10 times for the "fee increase". After 10 times, you have a tax increase on 100% of the people, with a 90% backing of the people, absolutely no way to know how much the government is collecting, no record of voting for a tax increase on any politicians record, and the ability to raise taxes at the whim of a regulator.
No thanks.
Hb
To: cpst12
Not exactly: a bond is a loan and can be paid for by higher tax revenues that result from lower tax rates, just as Andrew Mellon repaid the WW I "Liberty" Bonds with lower tax rates. The bottom line is many of you guys were WRONG, WRONG, WRONG about Arnold and won't admit it.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:15:06 AM PST
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
To: The Old Hoosier
Or succeeds.
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01/10/2004 10:15:46 AM PST
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
To: jagrmeister
Your knee-jerk opposition to Schwarzenegger is appaling. Thankfully, given your uninformed nature and poor command of logic, you are a veritable punching bag when it comes to political debate. In the future if you've got something to convey use this public forum, not my private Freepmail box.
To: Tempest; Tamsey
ping!
Hb
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