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Conservatives simmer as spending mushrooms under Bush
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Posted on 01/05/2004 1:19:09 PM PST by G. Chapman

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To: Luis Gonzalez
So, what we were in fact saying is that integrity matters.

Maybe if integrity just means not getting blow jobs in the Oval Office.

It was my belief that Clinton, through his cronies at Loral, had handed gyroscope technology to China, giving them the ability to target cities on the U.S. West Coast...in return for payola.

I thought that his administration might be involved in the strange deaths of Vincent Foster and Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, the one man sure to have inside info on what really happened with Bernie and Bill at Loral...How in the hell did private individual's F.B.I. files find their way into the hands of White House staffers? I thought Clinton had used the IRS to harass conservative think tanks and other conservative organizations. And illegal campaign contributions?...I was sure of that one. Those are a few of the criminal wrong doings that I believed that Bill Clinton could have been connected to during the time he served as President. More if you take the time to read AlamoGirls Whitewater Files.

As a man of integrity, I expected the new Justice Dept. Head to investigate the possible compromise to our national security. But the first thing J. Ashcroft does is level the power of the Federal Govt. against the will of the people of California who had stated clearly through ballot that ill people could treat themselves with a non federal government approved medicine...So much for a belief in States Rights in this area, as proclaimed by our paragon of virtue and integrity when he was asking for conservative support during his election. Was he lying Luis?. Sick pot smokers are carted off to jail while Bill Clinton is enjoying quarter million dollar speaking fees. So much for equal justice under the law. Where is the integrity in that Luis? But let's move on shall we.

Ashcroft implied he could find nothing illegal in the 8 years of Clinton's goverance...If true then the worst thing Clinton did was recieve a blow job from someone other than his wife and lie about it(one is tempted to understand)...Perjury in a civil court. People go to jail for that and Clinton was duly impeached. That hardly makes him a criminal mastermind though does it.

If the Bush Administration says Clinton committed no Federal crimes then I guess I have to take their word for it. After all Ashcrofts-Bushs integrity is unimpeachable is it not?

Let's move on from justice denied.

Abortion?...limited use of fetal stem cells still allowed...humph.

CFR?...Bush said during his campaign that such legislation was unconstitutional...Where does his integrity fit in with signing such a Bill then? For that matter, where is the integrity in sacrificing my children and their childrens future so I can have government approved drugs in my old age. Expanded Dept. of Education?...Teddy Kennedys dream handed to him with backslaps and smiles. Nanny goverenment...hardly a conservative principal. Bush has acted more the social liberal then Clinton did. The gun ban will be next.

And as long as Islam remains officially a "religion of peace" and our borders remain as porus as a taco cheese grater, the War on Terror is a joke. Is the Bush Administration in denial about the enemy we face?

And Iraq?...Saddam was a baaad man. But so is the President of China(and NK). And we know they have WMD because they've threatened us with them. Why does Bush's preemptive policy toward terrorist states exclude at least two of this planets worst terrorist states?

integrity?

You know what I think of The Patriot Act.

If you justify that garbage Bill then you need to re-examine your American Heritage. You do have one you know.

Tell me again what I got for voting for Bush last time?

Oh yeah, I forgot...300.00.

Might as well been 30 pieces of silver.

321 posted on 01/07/2004 4:59:47 AM PST by KDD (Time makes more converts than reason.)
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To: KDD
LOL!!!

Talk about dragging out old, tired arguments.

From Loral to stem cells, all these issues have been discussed ad nauseum in here, and your response of trying to insinuate that there's no difference between Bush and Clinton is the true straw bogeyman of most Bush abashes.

Loral was investigated and people were punished, Federal funding for any NEW stem cell research has been terminated, but existing, ongoing research continued...you have a problem with that, call your Senator. Brown's and Foster's deaths have been throughly investigated, and in spite of what you may BELIEVE, no wrong doing was found, the Justice Department does not operate in accordance to your tin foil conspiracy beliefs. The Feds slammed down pot use in California? Oh well...the WOD rages on with the enthusiastic approval of the majority of the population, Ashcroft could not find anything illegal because the issue was never legality, but integrity...you're damned right that the slick, trial lawyer driven administration of Clinton and Clinton never themselves crossed the thin line separating legality from illegality...you have a problem with that? Rewrite the laws.

There is nothing unconstitutional about CFR, ask the SCOTUS...you don't like that answer? Then get your Senator to stop the Senate from stonewalling Bush's nominations to the Federal bench.

Islam is what the people manipulating it make it out to be, and your "porous" borders rhetoric if tired, there were one million apprehensions at our SW border in 2003, and another million people here illegally who departed the country willfully after being caught by the INS...bad cheese grater.

Last but not least, you drag out the old leftist "Saddam didn't do nothin' to us" argument...we are at war with radical Islam, we have already defeated its greatest Army, and shown pictures of the new Saladin being inspected for head lice. We have taken the war to Islam, and away from our shores, we have established a beach head in the very heart of Islam, and dared them to come at us. The bombs blow up in THEIR streets, not ours.

It's funny you know, you just spent a whole lot of time reviving old,tired bogeymen in response to my assertion.

Thanks for coming out of the closet in front of God and everyone.

322 posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:42 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Reagan Man
"I will continue to exercise my right as an American to communicate the concerns I have with the elected officials who are running my country. Always have and always will."

Right on.

323 posted on 01/07/2004 6:07:36 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Nanodik
Harry Browne, should he get the nomination, will get my vote.

BWAAAAAAHHHHH, HHHHAAAAaaaaaa, HHAaaaaaaaa, Haaaaaa, haaaaa..... OH! Good one! I about bust a gut laughing over that one! Yep, because of my rock solid convictions, I'm voting for Mickey Mouse next election. As a write-in if I have to. He has a MUCH better chance of winning than Harry Browne! LOL!!!

Who ever said that FR wasn't entertaining?!?!

324 posted on 01/07/2004 7:05:49 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Nanodik
>What dribble. How long will it take for Republicrats to realize that the mask is off ... As long as you keep voting for the Republicrats, they will keep taking you for granted.

Don't you see what is
going on? Republicans
represent the last

really effective
large bloc of citizens that
move by principle

and don't jerk and dance
to media push and pulls...
So, special interests

are "re-districting"
the Republican party
into "bite-sized" chunks --

libertarians,
patriots, economic
imperialists,

evangelicals,
"normal" conservatives, and
God knows what other

demographic tabs
they can think up. These small groups
can be played against

not just "opponents,"
but also each other. And
the social pressure

a monolithic
Republican party could
exert in culture

as a grass-roots thing
will be destroyed, and only
"coordination"

between the small groups
that can be directed through
central controllers

will remain as a
political power threat.
All you "INSIGHTFUL"

deserters
-- you think
you see and understand more
than Republicans

who stay in-party,
but the truth is you see less,
AND you let yourself

be used to destroy
the very real power base
that could get things done!

It's like Pink Floyd's song,
where they sing you've exchanged your
walk-on part in a

war for a lead role
in a cage
you selfish, blind,
big-headed morons!

325 posted on 01/07/2004 7:27:47 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
He has a MUCH better chance of winning than Harry Browne! LOL

If the electorate of the US would vote based upon principle, neither a D or an R would get into any federal office. As long as you keep voting for these whores, they'll keep giving to you behind sans lubricant. Think of it this way: What if 10% (and I assume that at least 10% of the Republican base is pissed off right now by what the R's are doing) decided to walk and send their donations and votes to the Libertarians or Constitution Party or Reform Party, whatever. Do you think the Republicans would get a clue as to what was going on? You Republicans want change you have to use your vote - that is vote with your feet and walk away. Do I expect Browne to get elected? No, but at least I won't have offered my support the socialist political whores at the top of the Republicrat party. If they want my vote/donation - they'll have to work for it.

326 posted on 01/07/2004 10:23:11 AM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: theFIRMbss
For God's sake, please stop posting in 3 line segments, it is the most annoying thing to read that I actually had to force myself to get through you diatribe. Unlike you, I am not a Republican. I have voted for some in the past, but no more. Just give me one, ONE good reason why I should vote for a republican?
327 posted on 01/07/2004 10:28:04 AM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: Nanodik
>... I actually had to force myself to get through you diatribe. ... Just give me one, ONE good reason why I should vote for a republican?

I explained at length
and in detail why you should
vote Republican.

Libertarians
pretend they can think, but they
never just do it...

328 posted on 01/07/2004 10:41:10 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Nanodik
Rather than get all bent out of shape and spend my money on losers I'll simply flush a few hundred to a few thousand dollars down my toilet each year. That way I'll get results as good or better than voting for losers who will never win, but without the frustration. I too can than proudly yap on about "Republicrats," "socialist political whores," etc. Ohhhh.... I feel so good just saying those words... Today I'll flush $100 down the toilet. I'll have to think about next month's contribution. Did my toilet please me in every way? Did it clog at all? Does it have any socialist leanings? Hmmmm... All important things to consider before flushing more money down.

It's your wasted vote, have fun with it! Maybe write in a name so long that it won't fit on the ballot then sue over it. That would do something with your vote I guess.

329 posted on 01/07/2004 10:44:52 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Well, your toilet is actually a pretty good analogy. Let's see, you could flush your $100 down the toilet or you could send it to support the Republicrat party. With the toilet, you are no better off for sure. With the Republicrats, your $100 will go toward buying ads to lie to you and everyone else about what these lying whores stand for. Then, once they get elected they will pass a bunch of social programs to show how "compassionate" they are by spending your tax dollars and that of your children, your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren. Final cost to you and your lineage: anywhere from a few hundred thousand to maybe a mil. Solution? Flush away....
330 posted on 01/07/2004 11:00:54 AM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: Nanodik
Flush away....

LOL!!! Says the person most experienced in said activity!!! But you have your principals! LOL!!!

331 posted on 01/07/2004 11:12:16 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: theFIRMbss
I explained at length and in detail why you should vote Republican.

That must
have been the part
about Pink Floyd

Something about a dance
"EXERT CULTURE"
I've got the baton!

Still, no lubricant

332 posted on 01/07/2004 11:12:55 AM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Says the person most experienced in said activity!!!

Of the two of us, I am sure. I have always found Republicrats to be constipated. They might not notice anything wrong though as they are used to getting it from behind by the Republicrat party...

333 posted on 01/07/2004 11:16:15 AM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: G. Chapman
Thanks again for posting this analysis.


Legal abuse of the First Amendment-Daily Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 28

334 posted on 01/07/2004 11:47:56 PM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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