Town Refuses to Ask Citizens If Library Porn Should Be Filtered Out - Please Help Us!

Plan2Succeed.org ^ | 22 Dec 2003 | Plan2Succeed.org

[plan2succeed.org]

Will people please read the original article on how we should approach the problem of getting Internet filters into our public library? Can you believe it's even a problem? That's why we have joined the FreeRepublic.com, to find like-minded people to help us with our quest to protect children from the American Library Association and our local public library. Thank you very much.

[clee1]

a) Send your child in to websurf. b) See that he/she finds some porno. c) Sue the library for 1 billion dollars for allowing a child to access porno. d) offer to drop your lawsuit if the library installs filters.

Good Luck!

[Prime Choice]

I have a better idea. How about only allowing minors to use the computers when under adult supervision? That'll cut down on the porn-o-rama right quick.

These filters have a way of being biased toward the Left end of the spectrum. Try looking up any pro-Second Amendment site via a system that has content filtering in place.

[leadpenny]

plan2succeed somewhere else. Kindly stay away from my library system.

[leadpenny]

Held any "book-burnings" lately?

[Always Right]

The ALA is a sick organization that provides recommended links to children that advise children how to perform dangerous sexual acts such as beastiality and oral sex on peoples anus. The federal government has additional money available if libraries wish to comply and provide filters for children. Does the city/county have any authority over the library? How is the library board of directors chosen? You will have a better chance going after politicians than you will library board. So hit the politicians who have control over library funding and/or staffing. I doubt if you will have any luck changine the minds of the poeple already on the board who are in lock step with the ALA and want to sexualize children and cater to the sickest of the sick sex acts.

[plan2succeed.org]

Prime Choice: adult supervision of children is fine but not the only issue. The fact is that many adults use the porn to harass other patrons and the staff. One library settled a sexual harassment law suit for over $600K caused by the use of unfiltered computers. Read our site to learn more about this. And as far as any bias by content filters, the US v. ALA US Supreme Court case allows the filters to be disabled by adults just to prevent such problems. There is no censorship where you just have to ask to disable the filters.

[little jeremiah]

Actually, little children should be allowed to see any kind of pornography available on the internet, or in print. After all, it's a free country.

I mean, where would we be as a nation or people if pornography was in any way restricted? The horror of even contemplating the slightest restriction in even the most hard core sexually explicit, violent, degraded or perverted pornography! I mean, that's what the founders of this country had in mind when they wanted freedom of speech. The freedom of explicit, vile pornography for every little boy and girl!

Those leftist librarians are so right. Pornography - good. Ann Coulter's books - bad.

[little jeremiah]

Buy your own freekin porno with your own freekin money and look at it in your own freekin house.

[Always Right]

Held any "book-burnings" lately?

A library should be a safe place for children. Adults can get keys to turn off the filters. Burning legitimate pieces of literature and not providing children to pornography are two different things. There is no reason why taxpayers should be paying for something that allows pornography to children. I suppose you are for allowing kids to buy alcohol, pornography, and shoot why not drugs too while you are at it?

[Always Right]

I mean, where would we be as a nation or people if pornography was in any way restricted?

Why stop there. Why not have private rooms for pedophiles to have sex with children. As long as it is consenual what is the problem? I have no clue where libertarians draw the line and neither do libertarians.

[Prime Choice]

Prime Choice: adult supervision of children is fine but not the only issue.

It's not? Every time I see the library-porn flag raised, it's invariably "for the children."

The fact is that many adults use the porn to harass other patrons and the staff.

Fine. Ban the creeps, then. Causing a public nuisance is not protected speech.

One library settled a sexual harassment law suit for over $600K caused by the use of unfiltered computers.

So? The library shouldn't have been sued in the first place. It's about time people took responsibility for their own actions instead of shopping around for friendly judges and deep pockets.

Read our site to learn more about this.

I know plenty about it already, and I can't support the ridiculous notion that filters are going to do anything but cause more problems and raise expenses unnecessarily.

And as far as any bias by content filters, the US v. ALA US Supreme Court case allows the filters to be disabled by adults just to prevent such problems.

So it's okay in your view for the kiddies to be raised with the notion that their Second Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a BAD thing? Sorry, can't sign off on that.

There is no censorship where you just have to ask to disable the filters.

I never mentioned censorship. What I did mention is that these filters are inordinately Leftist in nature in terms of their pro-"safe sex", pro-abortion and anti-Second Amendment bias. I won't support that sort of rot being forced on anyone of any age.

[leadpenny]

Who's going to determine what "porno" is, a Library Filter Committee?

[Da Mav]

Are you kidding? You want help to have the government decide what your children can read?

If you want your children not to have access to these things, supervise them or don't let them use the library computers.

This "for the children" stuff always ends up being an excuse for nanny government. Who decides where the line is drawn? You are delegating freedom to whatever a company making these filters decides should be off limits.

[Da Mav]

Kudos, leadpenny. Wherever these people are I hope they stay there and don't come anywhere near here.

[Prime Choice]

A library should be a safe place for children.

Agreed. So move the computers into the adult section and prohibit minors from accessing them. Problem solved with no expensive software or licensing fees.

[Prime Choice]

Who's going to determine what "porno" is, a Library Filter Committee?

Judging from the way most of these filtering database are written, pro-Second Amendment sites and even Free Republic itself are "porno" in their eyes.

Let us not forget that most conservative sites are labelled "hate sites" by these organizations that provide content filtering services.

That's why I'll never support their use for any purpose. Their Leftist bias is all too apparent.

[leadpenny]

Who's going to determine what "legitimate pieces of literature" are, a Library Filter Committee?

[Prime Choice]

Who's going to determine what "legitimate pieces of literature" are, a Library Filter Committee?

Considering that such committees will be comprised of the same people who proffer up Hillary Clinton's "Living History" while placing Ann Coulter's "Treason" in the canonical dustbin, I'd rather not have them making decisions on "legitimate literature" for me or mine.