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Horse Lovers Must Read
Leigh Anne O'Kelley

Posted on 12/30/2003 4:37:20 AM PST by rooster1

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To: Endeavor
My father and I may not share the same views and may not see eye to eye on my beliefs or views but he raised me to be my own person. No apology needed to him. He posted my article as a proud father- on a cause I belive in. If one person reads it, and supports it, then it is worthwhile to me. I had a horse stolen two years ago, and pray it did not end up at a slughter house. That too is a problem. It is not just the sick, old, and lame being bought by the kill buyers. And the market for horses is low. Rescue friends have been buying sound,healthy horses at auction for 100.00
61 posted on 12/30/2003 7:33:15 AM PST by dever412 (www.rescuewishes.com and www.rescuewishes.com/allanimals)
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To: dever412
"If you did a study most animal activists are peace loving and even the ALF which does use force for animal liberation does not injure people."

Lie!

62 posted on 12/30/2003 7:33:53 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: dever412
even the ALF which does use force for animal liberation does not injure people.

BULL and don't even go down that road. Damaging the property of others is terrorism, is wrong, and if you want to be on the right side ~never~ join them or justify their actions because you think their intentions are good. Their intention is to achieve their end by taking from others and destroying their property. ALF 'freed' a bunch of show dogs at a dog show. Two were hit by cars before they were caught, several bred creating unwatned mixed breed puppies, and many fights took place. All to 'save' what? Show dogs are not the example of animal abuse.

ALF would free your horse to run in the street. They think you are just as abusive to ride your horse as the killer buyers are to slaughter them.

63 posted on 12/30/2003 7:35:19 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: AlbertWang
New Holland Pa on Mondays used to be the place to dump unwanted horses. I went a few times and watched. It was not a good place to be if you have horses and like them.
The killer buyers were there. I think the biggest problem is in the shipping of the animals to their death. It is pretty bad. Shoving them into crowded trailers and having the weaker ones fall and be stomped by scared and frenzied others is ugly.
64 posted on 12/30/2003 7:35:29 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: dever412
Powder..patch..ball FIRE!

I have my causes, and to be quite honest- it may say a lot about me- but yes I'd fight for an animal over a person any day

Then my assesment about you was correct.

65 posted on 12/30/2003 7:37:29 AM PST by BallandPowder
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To: rooster1
The best way to reduce this problem is for everyone who cares about horses to absolutely refuse to support competitive racing and showing of horses in any way. The only reason for the huge oversupply of horses is the huge overbreeding which is driven by the greedy urge to produce a "winner" -- even if that means producing a thousand unwanted "losers" in the process, who will invariably end up neglected and eventually slaughtered, long before the end of their natural lifespan. If you participate in horse shows (beyond the just for fun children's type), or attend or bet on horse races, YOU are part of the problem. Overbreeding will stop when it stops being profitable, and not a minute sooner.
66 posted on 12/30/2003 7:38:38 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: BallandPowder
horse bump
67 posted on 12/30/2003 7:38:48 AM PST by Mercat
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To: rooster1

Well which is it? Is the slaughter plants in Texas operating illegal or not? If illegal then looks like the problem is solved if they are illegal since they should be able to be shut down.
68 posted on 12/30/2003 7:39:24 AM PST by deport ( Some folks wear their halos much too tight...)
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To: Dudoight
Can you tell me what a sorrel is? Thank you!
69 posted on 12/30/2003 7:40:49 AM PST by carton253 (It's time to draw your sword and throw away the scabbard... General TJ Jackson)
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To: carton253
Sorrel is a brown horse (usually reddish) with a mane and tail the same color or lighter.
70 posted on 12/30/2003 7:47:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: rooster1; All
Folks..........

rooster1 has left the building........ seems he has posted the article and hasn't responded. His last post prior to this one was back in July 03....
71 posted on 12/30/2003 7:50:29 AM PST by deport ( Some folks wear their halos much too tight...)
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To: deport
rooster1 said he posted the article for his daughter who is now posting on the thread under her own name... dever412 registered today.
72 posted on 12/30/2003 7:53:38 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: dever412
That animation is long on fluff and short on substance.

73 posted on 12/30/2003 7:53:42 AM PST by American_Centurion
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To: American_Centurion
You can say that again!!
74 posted on 12/30/2003 7:55:38 AM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: GovernmentShrinker
There is also the premarin industry that produces 1000's of unwanted foals each year...That is another industry that needs to go by the wayside.

I went off premarin long before I knew about this (who wants to take something that means "pregnant mares urine!?!") and now take yam/synthetic based ERT. It is the same price and I can tell a difference healthwise.
75 posted on 12/30/2003 8:00:50 AM PST by najida (Where is Snake Pliskin when you need him?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I have been thinking about your solution.... And I can't bring myself to agree. I do think the promotion and selective breeding of horses (and dogs for that matter) for show is an overall benefit to the welfare of horses. It encourages the participation in and appreciation of horses and good horsekeeping.

Horses and dogs both suffer from the same overbreeding moreso by people who should never have thought to breed and do... The "wouldn't it be fun to have a foal and sell it" kind of mentality. The backyard breeder with very average stock.

I have a pony no one can ride. She is too wild for kids and too little for an adult to train. She would be hard to sell to a good home, so I keep her. Someone said to me "Well, she's pretty, you could breed her". For what? I said... To have another pony that I don't really need?" But people think like that. And it is an avalanche of small stones.
76 posted on 12/30/2003 8:01:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Dudoight
To paraphrase Col. Potter (M*A*S*H)

'Horses are noble beasts and should not be eaten. Cows are ugly, we're doing them a favor by eating them.'

Can't remember exactly the line, its been quite a few years.

77 posted on 12/30/2003 8:01:43 AM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: HairOfTheDog; dever412
thanks.... I saw the postings supporting the ban of 'horse slaughter' but wasn't paying attention who the poster was if'n she so stated who she was. .....

412... look at #68 and tell me which is it. From your article it's confusing.... legal or illegal?
78 posted on 12/30/2003 8:01:52 AM PST by deport ( Some folks wear their halos much too tight...)
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To: najida
Premarin is a big problem. Too bad there is not a better way to harvest it if it is useful... it is a free-byproduct. But better to find synthetics than the way it is done now.
79 posted on 12/30/2003 8:02:22 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Is sorrel a color only or a breed?
80 posted on 12/30/2003 8:03:45 AM PST by carton253 (It's time to draw your sword and throw away the scabbard... General TJ Jackson)
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