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WITH A WHISPER, NOT A BANG (Patriot Act II signed by President on December 13, 2003)
San Antonio Current ^ | 12/24/03 | David Martin

Posted on 12/28/2003 9:02:32 PM PST by Marianne

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To: LPM1888
It is manifest that you are the one in the wrongful world. An "adult" who has "grown" past the point of seeing that the right to live is worth more than the obverse, is "mature" like a piece of rotten cheese is "mature."
101 posted on 12/28/2003 10:35:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Marianne
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism

H.R.2417

Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)

102 posted on 12/28/2003 10:37:52 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Marianne

There are 6 versions of Bill Number H.R.2417 for the 108th Congress

1 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Introduced in House)[H.R.2417.IH]
2 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Reported in House)[H.R.2417.RH]
3 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.2417.EH]
4 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[H.R.2417.PCS]
5 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.2417.EAS]
6 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.2417.ENR]
103 posted on 12/28/2003 10:39:29 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Sorry HiTech, but we don't really have any rights now.
If it looks like your going to be a problem, they just shoot you.
104 posted on 12/28/2003 11:00:17 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Marianne
I like it, I love, and I want more of it. Let's whack those terror cells right here.
105 posted on 12/29/2003 2:58:36 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: sinkspur
Property siezure is too easy in the U.S., as is snooping on financial records.

The time to leave will be soon, and the time for my money to leave is now.

Also, read my tagline. The REAL BIG cost of these kinds of laws is that I would not fight to defend the Ashcroft Nation. Nor will my kids. You better be ready to re-up because this place can go to hell in a can of anthrax for all I care.

When the government recinds all emergency powers and colors inside Constitutional lines I'll reconsider.
106 posted on 12/29/2003 4:16:25 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Pikamax; sinkspur
what the san antonio current and how come I haven't heard of this signing by any other news source?

Christ. Denial has gotten to the point that they even deny the existence of the law.

H.R. 2417, INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION AGREEMENT OF 2004 [Dec 13 2003--President Bush Signs Patriot Act II ]

Now I suppose you'll claim that someone hacked the Whitehouse web site, and that the bill never was signed after all.

107 posted on 12/29/2003 4:26:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I like it, I love, and I want more of it.

Yes, we know.

But I want to know just how many of your fascist urges you brought from your Democrat party.

Would you support arrest and unlimited incarceration without any trial whatsoever?

Would you support summary execution upon arrest?

Would you support complete revocation of the Bill of Rights for all people in order to assist the War on Terror?

108 posted on 12/29/2003 4:31:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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To: Kevin Curry
Kevin, looks like you are coming around. I'm glad to see you (finally) become alarmed at the sweeping police-state powers being amassed by this (and the previous) administration.
109 posted on 12/29/2003 4:36:12 AM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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To: woofie
I did a cursory look at Google ..nothing comes up .Which leads me to suspect it is a bogus story(coming from a San Antonio paper)

Here is some assistance: H.R. 2417, INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION AGREEMENT OF 2004 [Dec 13 2003--President Bush Signs Patriot Act II ]

110 posted on 12/29/2003 4:49:43 AM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
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To: Lazamataz
Yep, another of those belated birthday gifts...
As with most gift giving occasions, not all gifts are liked.
111 posted on 12/29/2003 5:01:01 AM PST by philman_36
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
...And to add salt to our wound, they refer to these losses of an American citizen's privacy as the 'Patriot' Act - I and II (one can assume there will be more)...

I'm late to this party and haven't read to the bottom, but what will come next guaranteed is the new extreme version of the AWB. Can't have arms in the hands of the sheeple.

Oh, it will be for our safety, and the safety of the "children", but it's coming.



112 posted on 12/29/2003 5:37:29 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (It's not a blanket amnesty, it's amnistia del serape!)
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To: Lower55
...This is not a kingdom, it's a representative republic...

Not any more.
113 posted on 12/29/2003 5:48:34 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (It's not a blanket amnesty, it's amnistia del serape!)
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To: MissAmericanPie
So far under the Bush administration we have lost the first, fouth, and tenth amendments.

At least the Administration's ability to piss you off has not been lost. lol.

114 posted on 12/29/2003 5:58:25 AM PST by verity
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To: eno_
You better be ready to re-up because this place can go to hell in a can of anthrax for all I care.

Then stop posting to me. You ought to be packing and getting ready to go...to France.

115 posted on 12/29/2003 6:22:15 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: GluteusMax
Keating's a flake, and so are you for posting this drivel on FR.

You're also thoughtless, by gumming up Jim's disc space instead of posting a link to it.

116 posted on 12/29/2003 6:29:28 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Marianne
Geat! Go President Bush!
117 posted on 12/29/2003 6:39:50 AM PST by PGalt
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To: GluteusMax
Sorry. My #116 was posted to the wrong thread and to the wrong person.
118 posted on 12/29/2003 7:00:09 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Lazamataz; JohnGalt; sheltonmac; Burkeman1; 4ConservativeJustices; Ff--150
Thanks for the link. Looks like more Christmas presents and no one told us. < /sarcasm> Please see the link at #110.
119 posted on 12/29/2003 7:20:44 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: sinkspur
Then stop posting to me. You ought to be packing and getting ready to go...to France.

Our rulers do as they please, and I will too. My taxes are far more than they deserve. They'll not get any more than that. It isn't me that has devalued this nation. It is vile laws like the Patriot Acts.

120 posted on 12/29/2003 7:22:49 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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