RASH RUSH BLAMES WOE ON FOES

New York Post ^ | 12/24/03 | JOHN MAINELLI

[dawn53]

Nope, not judging Rush on his lawyer. I'm judging the statement made to me that this particular lawyer was "right".

[Bluntpoint]

Those are not examples of "goverment" imposed rights but professional rights.

[HiTech RedNeck]

There are specific constitutional standards of privacy that have to be met in any case and the constitution doesn't have to spell out "fraud case" "robbery case" "drug case" etc. exhausting all the possibilities, to apply to "any case." I give my cats more credibility than I give the judges of Florida at this juncture. They've already richly proven themselves with the 2000 cherrypick recounts and with Terri Schiavo.

[Woahhs]

By your definition of "rights" they're going to have to let a lot of people out of jail who are in on drug charges.

Such as?

And you're right, that's a "no." Self-evident things don't require documentation by definition.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Are celebrities to be MORE vulnerable to ill-based fishing expeditions than John Q. Public? That's the argument you appear to be foisting.

[steve50]

So you don't think doctor-patient confidentiality is a legal right? Doctors have been disciplined and even successfully sued in court for violating that. How about lawyer-client confidentiality? Confidentiality of the confessional?

What I think has nothing to do with the issue. The federal government raided both doctor and lawyer offices a couple years ago in California and I saw no outrage over the loss of "privacy rights" here then. The precedent has been set. You guys are a couple years late to this argument.

[veronica]

Levin named two Dr's. who had their records seized. The DA alledges RUSH went back and forth to the 2 Dr's... Mark reveals, BOTH Dr's work at the SAME FACILITY...one was subbing for the other and issued prescriptions while the other guy was on vacation. The third Dr. was his EAR DOCTOR!!!

Just proves they have nothing on Rush but are trying to damage him. I predict Rush will make them all eat crow. :)

[HiTech RedNeck]

The precedent has been set.

Federal precedent cannot be grafted to Florida executive actions under Florida law. Nice try but BZZZZT.

[Bluntpoint]

I predict that Rush will accept a plea then say later he did so only because his lawyer insisted that this would be the easiest route not because he was guilty of anything.

[steve50]

And you're right, that's a "no." Self-evident things don't require documentation by definition.

Glad to hear it. Then anything I see as a self-evident right is beyond the reach of investigation or prosecution.

[Woahhs]

If this weren’t Rush, but just some construction worker or cab driver, would people be so quick and rabid in their defense? What makes Rush so special? Are celebrities to be held to a much lower standard than the commoner?

Excuse me?

We're FReepers, rabid argument is what we do: defense and offense ;0)

[Bluntpoint]

Only if you are in ideological agreement with me.

[Qwinn]

I'm no dittohead. I hardly ever listen to him, although I will sometimes go to his website for info. That said -

#1) "She didn't blame the right for her husband's sexual adventures, she blamed them for making a big deal of it." Untrue. Hillary used the VRWC defense -before- it became proven that Bill was guilty. She accused the VRWC of completely fabricating all the charges against her husband.

#2) I've heard a dozen cops come out and claim that never, in their combined hundreds of years of law enforcement, heard of drug -dealers- granted immunity to convict a drug -user-.

#3) Ditto extortion. They've granted immunity to blackmailers in order to convict the victim of the blackmail. Unheard of.

If I saw that done to Begala and Carville, as much as I hate them, I would recognize that that is MESSED UP.

Qwinn

[steve50]

Federal precedent cannot be grafted to Florida executive actions under Florida law.

These are Florida "judicial" actions, and if you think federal law doesn't set precedent for state law you're living in a dream world.

[Bluntpoint]

Grey hair old ladies for Rush.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Then anything I see as a self-evident right

That is a mendacious, beep-a-leeping strawman!!!

[Woahhs]

Nope, not judging Rush on his lawyer. I'm judging the statement made to me that this particular lawyer was "right".

Yeah, and you're predicating it on irrelevancies. Even Johnny Cochran would be right given the same circumstances.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Two different constitutions, two different law systems. Florida constitution can and DOES grant rights over and above Federal ones. You are dreaming yourself.

[Qwinn]

Oh, one additional point. It is my understanding that in the "doctor shopping" law, it is actually specifically stated in the law that the information gathered in the investigation of that crime cannot be released to the general public. "Leaking" it is a crime. Well, it's been leaked. In fact, the results of that investigation have, by my understanding from the radio earlier, been published on a website for all to see.

THAT is messed up.

Qwinn

[an amused spectator]

Question for all those interested. How many other "doctor shopping" cases have been prosecuted in Florida? How many have had probably millions spent on the investigation? I suspect that, guilty or not, Rush is getting very special, adverse, attention.

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Good article by Paul Rosenzweig: The Over-Criminalization of Social and Economic Conduct