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Posted on 10/27/2003 11:53:33 AM PST by SJackson
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To: OWK; Jim Robinson
If you want to compolain about someone, it's considered good form to ping him to said complaint.
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:27:15 PM PST
by
stands2reason
("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
To: yonif
Oh I am sorry, I assumed you actually read the post SJackson was responding too.
I never said you supported the US getting hit by hurricanes, but you thought it 'interesting.'
That kind of crap offends me, being a patriot and all, but I don't think you should be banned. I did point out that SJackson and his ilk were very quiet on the issue.
162
posted on
10/27/2003 2:27:17 PM PST
by
JohnGalt
(Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
To: r9etb
"Instead of a nice, free-wheeling give and take (such as we enjoy here at FR), "
FR is a censored site.
To: SJackson
This forum is a libertarian forum, and is devoted to the libertarian concept of unabashed free speech.Same here. The Libertarians love to bash Bush and his foreign policies.
164
posted on
10/27/2003 2:28:50 PM PST
by
cinFLA
To: Catspaw
Because this conversation has taken place many times and they usually choose not to comment on the subject or do what yonif is doing in claiming that he just posted the article, he did not think it was a good thing.
BTW, do you think its 'interesting' that the US gets struck by natural disasters when the United States slights Israel?
Or do you think it's just anti-American crack-pot crap?
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:29:29 PM PST
by
JohnGalt
(Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
To: Catspaw
And yet you're able to post your screed about censorship here. How ironic.And unlike at LF, his opinion is not downrated by a ridiculous point system which allows a cabal to get together and gang-rate a poster whose views the resident cabalists don't like.
To say LF is not censored is quite laughable. :)
166
posted on
10/27/2003 2:29:34 PM PST
by
veronica
("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
To: JohnGalt; SJackson
I never said you supported the US getting hit by hurricanes, but you thought it 'interesting.' Oh so I thought it interesting that the US was being hit by Hurricanes? No I didn't. I said that it was an interesting take saying that these natural disasters were because of US policy vs. Israel
That kind of crap offends me, being a patriot and all, but I don't think you should be banned. I did point out that SJackson and his ilk were very quiet on the issue.
Please clarify what you are trying to say here.
167
posted on
10/27/2003 2:30:47 PM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: OWK
My philosophy prohibits the initiation of force or fraud Huh you were pretty fraudulant with your accusations earlier on this thread that LF had become a neo-nazi sanctuary, because of Jim Robinson, IMO.
JMO, but you OWK as a human with human frailties shouldn't try to play God.
But what the hey, that's the OWK everyone has learned to know and expect.
168
posted on
10/27/2003 2:31:39 PM PST
by
Dane
To: aloysius89
if fraudulent speech would be "subject to restraining or punitive force", would not equally fraudulent speech such as the shouting of slogans at a speech or the spamming or flaming of internet communication in order to prevent the exercise of free speech (i.e. communication of ideas) be equally subject to some restriction, regulation, or at least moral approbation? fraud \Fraud\ (fr[add]d), n. [F. fraude, L. fraus, fraudis; prob. akin to Skr. dh[=u]rv to injure, dhv[.r] to cause to fall, and E. dull.] 1. Deception deliberately practiced with a view to gaining an unlawful or unfair advantage; artifice by which the right or interest of another is injured; injurious stratagem; deceit; trick.
Fraud has two components...
Dishonesty...... and intent to bring about damage or to secure unrightful advantage.
Two merely speak dishonestly, is not necessarily fraud.
169
posted on
10/27/2003 2:32:11 PM PST
by
OWK
To: Rebelbase
FR is a censored site. "Censored" only in the sense that whackjobs are excluded from this privately owned and operated forum.
170
posted on
10/27/2003 2:32:18 PM PST
by
r9etb
To: aloysius89
two merely = to merely
171
posted on
10/27/2003 2:32:41 PM PST
by
OWK
To: JohnGalt
Gee, John, before you go into full attack mode, I was pointing that that it's good form to ping the freepers you mention in your post. I just did it for you.
Temper, temper.
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:33:45 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: r9etb
"Censored" only in the sense that whackjobs are excluded from this privately owned and operated forum.I guess Jim just doesn't want his website to become a "Free Ernst Zundel from jail" outpost.
Imagine that. ;)
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:34:37 PM PST
by
veronica
("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
To: veronica
And unlike at LF, his opinion is not downrated by a ridiculous point system which allows a cabal to get together and gang-rate a poster whose views the resident cabalists don't like. I haven't been to LF in quite a while, but I always wondered about that point system. "Some are more equal than others" was my take on it.
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:35:45 PM PST
by
Catspaw
To: OWK
It's possible to consider the door of a mens' room stall a "publication"--but aside from such as that, publications which attract an audience are edited for the taste of that audience. The owners of the publications see to that, and have a right to do so.
A libertarian has no objection to property rights, and so has no logical objection to any particular publication's ownership editing the publication--even if that publication's ownership is libertarian.
FR is a moderated forum; its ownership has a right to moderate it. Its moderation is what defines its character, and its character defines, late or soon, its audience. IMHO any unmoderated forum is an open invitation to a de facto denial of service attack, in which the perspective of the forum is drowned out by noise expressing other perspectives without limit.
I see no constructive point to any such forum, over any length of time.
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:36:12 PM PST
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
To: SJackson
Thanks for keeping the board free o' trolls!
176
posted on
10/27/2003 2:36:24 PM PST
by
Little Ray
(When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Well stated.
177
posted on
10/27/2003 2:39:03 PM PST
by
dirtboy
(Now in theaters - Howard Dean as Buzz Lightweight - taking the Dems to Oblivion and Beyond in 2004!)
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
IMHO any unmoderated forum is an open invitation to a de facto denial of service attack, in which the perspective of the forum is drowned out by noise expressing other perspectives without limit. Perhaps....
Or perhaps there are other ways of dealing with the potential of these sources of noise that don't require censorship and overt control...
Many are under consideration.
That's what makes the net fun.
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:39:36 PM PST
by
OWK
To: JohnGalt
or the folks on this site (Brian S and Yonif) who believe that the United States is struck by a natural disaster when the US slights Israel. Excuse me?
If I remember correctly, I may have asked the question once if somebody had the list of events that seemed to correlate with US actions against Israel.
It must have made quite an impression on you to remember such a request.
BTW...Have the common courtesy of "pinging" me if you care to "trash me". I rather enjoy the "entertainment" and its pleases me to the fullest to know I'm having an impact! ;)
179
posted on
10/27/2003 2:40:44 PM PST
by
Brian S
The FR malcontents kinda remind me of a little song that goes something like this:
Mirrors on the ceiling
Pink champagne on ice
And she said
We are all just prisoners here
Of our own device
And in the master's chambers
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives
But they just can't kill the beast Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
Relax said the nightman
We are programed to recieve
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave
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posted on
10/27/2003 2:43:58 PM PST
by
Neets
(I CAN'T HEAR YOU, LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA)
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