Posted on 10/16/2003 7:33:43 AM PDT by AntiGuv
The problem that most theologians grapple with is that if evolution were true, there would have been no reason for Jesus to die on the cross.
A foundation of Scripture is the plan of salvation that Jesus completed on the cross with His sacrificial death and His subsequent resurrection. Thus conquering the death that Adam made as a Free-Will choice in Eden. Adam's choice to forfiet his inheritance to Satan, brought about original sin, as well as the curse on our universe.
To make it short, evolution blows all of these scriptural doctrines out of the park, leaving an empty husk of lies and half-truths. This is why Biblically literate believers completely reject the idea that God used evolution to bring us to this point. It contradicts the whole of the Old and New Testament writings.
Which of course is absolute garbage and has been proven to be so. The problem which population genetics cannot solve for evolution is that mutations occur in individuals, not in groups. What this means is that any mutation must spread throughout the population before it can become the building block for further steps in the transformation of one species into another. The smallest mutation is a single bit pair mutation and such cannot accomplish what is required for it to spread throughout a species according to the very laws formulated by evolutionists - a large beneficial effect.
To create a new organ would take millions of new base pair mutations. A new organ would be useless until it was complete. Thus the claim that mutations could create something as necessary to get from bacteria to humans as a single new organ is utterly impossible. Add to this that such intermediate steps to the creation of a new organ have never been observed, that thousands and/or millions of mutations each being a bit more beneficial at every step is impossible and what you have is evolution being disproven by its very own rules.
If it works, this will be wonderful news for many who suffer from these diseases. The mechanism of the cure points out the specificity of the genetic code. When the stop code is correctly located, the ribosome knows when the protein ends, and all is well. If a premature stop code has been inserted in the gene by a mutation, protein construction is aborted, and the incomplete polypeptide is destined for destruction. The new drug has a way to latch onto the stop code and prevent it from being interpreted as such. Its like putting a cover over a stop sign, or commenting out an extraneous EXIT directive in a computer script.Link
Notice how damaging single mutations like this can be (see Oct. 1 headline on pleiotropic effects). Sufferers of these genetic diseases are not surviving as the fittest. They are not evolving into something more complex. Complex life is sustainable only because a sophisticated factory of machines work against equilibrium to produce interacting, functional networks (see Sep. 29 headline).
Throughout the uncountable zillions of copies of genes made daily throughout the living world, most mistakes are caught and corrected. Occasionally, one slips through. The results can be devastating. Why mistakes are allowed to exist is a question for philosophers and theologians, but it is exciting to see that scientists, discerning the inner workings of the genetic code, are finding ways to bypass the errors and provide new hope for millions affected by them.
Actually, every human is suffering under the mutational load accumulated through thousands of years of inheritance. It is very probable that the first humans were much more fit (i.e., possessing error-free genomes). Only presumption believes evolution is improving our fitness. The evidence indicates we are devolving, because many harmful mutations are known, but there are no unequivocal examples of helpful mutations.
By exercising good design science, we can apply our intelligence to help repair what errors our genetic mechanisms occasionally let slip, but we should be not proud: compared to the built-in manufacturing and proofreading processes in the cell, our techniques amount to little more than sticking a finger in a dike.
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However, the millenium of Christ's rule on earth described in Revelation 20 - though not restricted by the physical laws - will evidently comport with enough of them that there will continue an earth and nations in fulfillment of the prophesy.
Dunno. Is there still time to prune?
I don't see that.
Does the path God and our free will chose to get where we are matter more than where we arrived?
Although this result is not necessarily surprising, it has a number of important evolutionary implications:
(ii) The mammalian lineage appears to have elaborated, by multiple gene duplications, a basic homeodomain repertoire that was shared with ancestors to arthropods and nematodes. Even although the mammalian and fly genomes are yet incomplete, they attest to more frequent gene duplications than in C. elegans. Clearly, there are only few examples of homeodomain duplicates in C. elegans, and it is unclear whether there were recent gene duplications. Nevertheless, the basic repertoire in mammals, and presumably the gene regulatory control mechanisms encoded by it, evolved fundamentally similarly to their invertebrate counterparts.
(iii) The extent of diversity in homeodomain repertoires appears to be comparable for nematodes, arthropods, and mammals. Thus, the repertoires in different clades did not expand appreciably in variability during evolution. There are two possible explanations for this constancy: either the homeodomain possesses only limited mutability (presumably for structural reasons) or the time elapsed did not allow yet for greater divergence. The latter possibility is unlikely as some sequences exist that have evolved independently (such as for example, Drosophila bicoid and some genes unique to C. elegans).
(iv) The evolutionary progression, at least for homeobox genes, more likely involved numerous duplications of terminal branches rather than invention of novelty. With respect to the hypotheses set forth at the start of this study, this favors model 2 (Fig. 1B) as the evolutionary scenario.
Does the path God and our free will chose to get where we are matter more than where we arrived?
I am not sure of what you are saying, could you please restate it. I will also try to clarify my point.
The punishment for Adam's disobedience was death. As the Apostle Paul stated, "The wages of sin is death".
Jesus Christ lived a perfect life to redeem man's inheritance (The sinless God-Man), and then He died on the cross to redeem our necessity for the punishment of death for our sins.
If evolution is true, Adam had an earthly father who naturally died. The choice of disobediance Adam made was made for him by God, if God used natural evolutionary methods to bring about Adam. Therefore, death was not a punishment, and more importantly the wages of sin are not death and there was no need for Jesus to live a sinless life to conquer the punishment of death.
I choose to trust in the death and resurrection of our sinless Redeemer Jesus Christ, so that we may live sinlessly, in our resurrected glorified bodies, eternally with God.
Please re-read my posts. I NEVER stated that God's existence could be proven. In fact, I stated exactly the opposite. Not much of a God, if we can prove him. There is a difference between evidence and proof, but it sounds like many here don't understand it.
Thanks for responding. I have heard the argument that Adamic man started with Adam. This inevitably leads down the path of, "who among us is not an Adamic man"?
Bodys die. Even God made flesh died. "The wages of sin is death", so apparently are the wages of virtue.
Most Biblical scholars believe Adam would have existed eternally if he retained his innocence, for without sin (the fall) there is no death. (The wages of sin is death).
The greatest thing for us in the Gospel is that God's perfect plan is so full of grace, in that we still sin after we become believers, but because of what Christ did on the cross, the judgement for our sins was placed on Christ. Christ died and conquered death through His resurrection, as it will be with us. For believers in Christ, sin has lost it's deathly hold because of what He accomplished on the cross. Jesus Christ living a sinless life making him worthy of sacrifice and resurrection. Free at last.
Of course a believer engaging in habitual sin dishonors Christ's sacrifice, and often prompts decisive action by the Lord. This usually results in hindered fellowship with God, and a lack of blessings in ones life. However, the Body of believers in contact with a habitually sinning Christian are commanded to call them to account.
Needless to say, it is best to abide in Christ. Spiritual blessings in this life, and promised rewards in heaven are strong motivators to deal forthrightly with personal sin.
The Clintons? I'm serious.
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