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The N.R.A. Is Naming Names
The New York Times ^
| 10-13-03
| BOB HERBERT
Posted on 10/13/2003 4:01:20 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7
BTW - Bobby. StoptheNRA isn't a new group. It is just another front group for the Brady group.
141
posted on
10/13/2003 8:13:00 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("I don't want to Raise Taxes" "I think everything must be looked at" - Jennifer Granholm. (D))
To: Grit
The Goldman, MacArthur, Tides, and Tsunami foundations as well are gun grabbers. As is Mitch Albom.
142
posted on
10/13/2003 8:14:34 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("I don't want to Raise Taxes" "I think everything must be looked at" - Jennifer Granholm. (D))
To: Noumenon
Sounds to me, like they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. They say they want to keep guns out of juveniles hands. I think that is the parents job. I agree alot of parents don't do their job, but they already have a law , I think, where you have to be 18 to buy a gun.
They are just trying to appease both sides, but their actions only appease the gun control side. What have they done to guarantee the right of all law abiding citizens to carry and own guns?
Nothing! Like I say their actions speak louder than their words ever will.
Thanks for going to the trouble to write them.
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posted on
10/13/2003 8:16:42 PM PDT
by
auggy
(http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
To: FreedomPoster
It is worth reminding everyone that Levi-Strauss makes the Dockers line of clothing as well BUMP
144
posted on
10/13/2003 8:20:01 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("I don't want to Raise Taxes" "I think everything must be looked at" - Jennifer Granholm. (D))
To: FreedomPoster
"It is worth reminding everyone that Levi-Strauss makes the Dockers line of clothing as well." Yep. And it's going to be hard doing without those Sarah Lee cheesecakes.
145
posted on
10/13/2003 8:33:35 PM PDT
by
Vigilantcitizen
(For all that holy coach Reeves......We have two really good runningbacks...RUN THE DAMN BALL)
To: Rob45and2
The is none, nada, zip, absolutly no evidence that any gun laws have EVER had a positive influence on crime. I challenge anyone to show any credible evidence that restrictive gun laws work. Do you really believe that? You should visit "gun free" Chicago sometime. Honest citizens are disarmed by "gun control" laws, and murder is rampant. "Gun control" is the great enabler of criminals.
146
posted on
10/13/2003 8:41:14 PM PDT
by
Mini-14
To: auggy
This is wehat I sent in reply:
Thank you for your response. I regard AARP's essentially anti-gun / anti-self defense stance as sufficient reason for my rejection of your offer for membership. Why in the name of John Moses Browning would I want to support an organization that wishes to restrict my rights and worse - makes common cause with those who wish to make ownership of firearms of any sort illegal? Regards -
Ward Dorrity
PS -
Those who reject the first principles of a rational and humane existence - that your life belongs to you and that the disposition of the fruits of your labors is and should always be a matter of your personal conscience - are enemies of human freedom and dignity.
147
posted on
10/13/2003 8:42:34 PM PDT
by
Noumenon
(I don't have enough guns and ammo to start a war - but I do have enough to finish one.)
To: Dan from Michigan
Carhartt clothing works for me. Durable stuff, too.
148
posted on
10/13/2003 9:12:06 PM PDT
by
Noumenon
(I don't have enough guns and ammo to start a war - but I do have enough to finish one.)
To: Grit
Herman Wouk - Author What did he do or say, or who did he support? It certainly doesn't sound like something the author of "The Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance" would do. One of his principal characters gets turned into soap and lampshades in the camps. She was a basically non-religous American Jew, married to an American Submarine officer, who was trapped in Italy when the war began. (that's the short version anyway).
I do see him on the stopgunviolence.org site, but they'll count most any statement that doesn't directly contradict their views as supporting them. The list is everywhere, it's not clear that it originated with the NRA, in fact it seems to have come from the anti-arms rights sites.
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posted on
10/13/2003 11:21:48 PM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: archy
Something like the
"final solution to the right-wing Christian European homophobic reactionary gun-nut problem?"
150
posted on
10/14/2003 12:34:37 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Mulder
That's why I included the "Fed List" chapters in EFAD.
151
posted on
10/14/2003 12:38:36 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Mo1
And when did we start selling guns to children?? We used to, before the nanny state decided it knew better than parents. And not that long ago either. I know I could buy ammunition before I turned 18, which was in 1967, but I never had enough money to buy a gun before then, although I did own a 20 ga pump shotgun. However it was the 1968 gun control act, which banned dealer sales to minors, that is under 21 for handguns, and under 18 for long guns. (Not ancient history to those of us who are getting kind of ancient ourselves). You could buy 'em through the Sears Catlog (they even had their own "house brand" of ammunition and guns, as did Wards. (JC Higgens and Western Field, respectively). So about the time I got enough money to buy guns, most especially a handgun, I couldn't anymore. For awhile they still sold them through their catalogs, but you had to appear in person to pick them up, and of course you had to meet the legal, but unconstitutional, age requirements. Ever since then, a kid could be old enough to be handed a 1911A1 or the latter 9mm substitute, and be told (in effect) "prepare to defend your self", by Uncle Sugar, but couldn't buy one to protect his wife or girlfriend, not mention himself while off duty in some of the "wonderful and friendly" locals off-post where he might have to live, due to his meager pay. He couldn't even buy ammunition for a handgun. Until '86 you had to show ID and a record was kept for every box of handgun ammo, including .22 rimfire, that you bought. (I'm on "the list" for a bunch of boxes of .22 short, which I shot through my wife's grandfather's Browning semi-auto rifle in that chambering. After I went on active duty, I used my military officer's ID instead of my driver's license, just because it seemed even sillier that way, and embarrassed the poor clerk, who probably weren't old enough to the buy stuff themselves in many cases)
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posted on
10/14/2003 12:47:12 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: Mo1
Sorry .. but he IS anti-guns Technically he's not, but he is anti arms rights, and thus a domestic enemy of the Constitution. Seems I remember taking an oath that had something to do with "domestic enemies" of the Constitution. Hmmmm. (No I'm not suffering Senior Moment, I remember it quite clearly)
153
posted on
10/14/2003 12:50:34 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: sergeantdave
I sorta fall in with the liberals on gun control - if you have to load your weapon onto a trailer and hook it up to a semi-truck or locomotive to move it, individuals should not be allowed to own such armament. Before 1968, you could, and before 1934, you could even fire a projectile that went BOOM when it got to the target. Didn't seem to be a problem, even if you were a producer or purveyor of Demon Rum, with "jealous" rivals.
And if you have to load it from the front, and only fire non-explosive projectiles, you can still keep 'em (or buy some more if you choose) You could certainly make a smell of a hess loading up with some Chain or grape, protecting your reload crew with a hand cranked Gatling, which are also still legal. But shhh, don't tell Sarah or Chuckie about that.
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posted on
10/14/2003 1:02:23 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: Noumenon
I think I dropped them a few years back when Algore and WBush were running for president. They were strong supporters of Algore.
155
posted on
10/14/2003 1:26:49 AM PDT
by
auggy
(http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
To: FixitGuy
You bet! Gett'em while you can b/c the RINOs and dems are bent on making it impossible.
156
posted on
10/14/2003 4:20:01 AM PDT
by
556x45
To: TN4Liberty
How fortuitous in timing. The gun grabbers validate my numbers here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1001182/posts Notice how they consolidate their efforts with the NOW crowd and only write about women and children harmed by men. They deliberately ignore all the domestic violence initated by females, for which studies to document said violence is not politically correct to fund or publish.
Anyone serious about domestic violence will find it started by females most of the time. The men get the bad public relations because the men in defending themselves cause the female attackers to have worse injuries. IIRC, I read one study that stated about 90% of domestic violence was started by women.
When you think about it, how many men are willing to admit they we're physically assaulted by their wife or "significant other" and were too afraid to accuse the perpetrator, defend themselves or admit having their butt kicked by some virago.
Also, please return to comment# 23 on this thread where Brady embraces the socialist agenda.
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posted on
10/14/2003 11:54:47 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Say a prayer for New York both for it's lefty statism and the probability the city will be hit again)
To: JulieRNR21
As I predicted a few days ago, the SHT has picked up this article and it was in today's op-eds.
The liberal media is nothing if not predictable.
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posted on
10/16/2003 6:07:40 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
("Man has only those rights he can defend.")
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