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What the Hell Happened to Rand Paul? (Between Rand & Cruz it turns out the base loves Cruz more)
Red State ^ | July 16, 2015 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/16/2015 11:52:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: C. Edmund Wright

That makes sense. Come to think of it, they might be just be druggies looking for a candidate that will legalize all drugs.


41 posted on 07/16/2015 1:48:58 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

That is indeed a part of that group.....


42 posted on 07/16/2015 2:00:58 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; C. Edmund Wright

>> How can libertines choose a socialist? <<

Seems to me that Erickson confuses libertines from libertarians. Big difference.

But then, what should one expect? Erickson also seems appallingly ignorant of the fact that red is the color of communism. So I find his “red state” blog worthy of my full inattention.

[And by the way, many well-known socialists and communists over the last 150+ years have been full-fledged libertines.]


43 posted on 07/16/2015 2:32:44 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; C. Edmund Wright
Editorial correction:

Seems to me that Erickson confuses libertines from with libertarians.

44 posted on 07/16/2015 2:37:34 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Old Sarge

Who knew little skulls full of mush were a fungible commodity. ;)

45 posted on 07/16/2015 3:05:20 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: Hawthorn

You can’t blame Erickson on the “red” issue, though I agree with you. Dan Rather and CBS made red/blue nation a fact of life before we had a chance to react.


46 posted on 07/16/2015 5:25:23 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Old Sarge

He came across so snotty and rude from the get go...I guess he turned off a lot of people. And...most people don’t care much for the social and economic ideology of liberaltarians when push comes to shove.


47 posted on 07/16/2015 5:39:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: C. Edmund Wright
>> You can’t blame Erickson on the “red” issue, though I agree with you <<

Sure. Can't blame Erickson for starting the trope, but I think he shares a chunk of blame for perpetuating it.

>> Dan Rather and CBS made red/blue nation a fact of life before we had a chance to react <<

I didn't realize Rather had played a big role. But I don't dispute the point.

Anyway, I think one should remember also that USA Today, with their much-hyped color printing, produced that "colorful" map -- an image that proceded almost instantly to mesmerize so many in the MSM and even in the ranks of conservatism.

48 posted on 07/17/2015 8:16:27 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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>> He came across so snotty and rude from the get go <<

Good point. Moreover, I think that if the GOP can’t nominate some kind of “happy warrior” for the 2016 race, Hilary will remain the overwhelming favorite to seize the POTUS jub. She may come across sometimes as a scolding school marm, but at least she doesn’t come across — à la Trump, Cruz, Christie and Paul — as a grouch.

(I just wish somebody would give Cruz a smile-and-humor transplant!)


49 posted on 07/17/2015 8:23:31 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

maybe a bit of blame for perpetuating it, but keep in mind, the red/blue was started by Rather in early 1988......probably 20 years before Red State was founded, which was also long after the red/blue maps were everywhere.


50 posted on 07/17/2015 8:24:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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>> the red/blue was started by Rather in early 1988 <<

I gladly yield to your superior knowledge of the matter. No argument. And I wouldn't rule out a conscious "conspiracy" on the part of Rather and his minions to execute what eventually became an important psychological and cultural coup.

Still, I have an unprovable suspicion that the infamous USA Today red/blue map of November 2000 was some kinda tipping point.

Specifically, it seems to me that the power of that image may have been what duped so many conservatives into adopting the perverse meme that red is the natural color for the right, and that blue is the natural color for the left.

51 posted on 07/17/2015 8:37:09 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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First, let me say that I share all your concerns over this red blue thing, and for all the same reasons. Liberalism used to mean the exact opposite too....sometimes language just gets all too screwed up. This is the case here.

Now as for the history, for whatever reason, as a young pup, I was watching Dan Rather talk about returns in the 1988 primary season....as George Bush was pulling away from Pat Buchanan etc....HW Bush that is....and the states Bush was winning were in red. Rather said, and for whatever sick reasons I remember, “George Bush’s big red machine rolls on”.....

(now don’t ask me where I left my car keys and wallet this morning, I’ve no idea, but I remember this....)

From the primary season, the 88 general started the red state/blue state designation. Then the maps....and the rest is history.....

I really have no idea how I remember that, or WTF I was doing watching CBS.....for that matter.


52 posted on 07/17/2015 8:42:03 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Brave Sir Robin ran away(with his hamburger)...when confronted with an illegal alien agitator/advocate...abandoning Steve King...who stood his ground while calmly(but skillfully)defending America/rule of law against a LaRaza gang-member/open boarders skank who rudely confronted(attacked)them while they were simply having lunch at a restaurant.

Luckily(this time)these cretins came unarmed.

Sorry, now is not the time for cowards, particularly on this issue.

....HE'S DEAD JIM!

...END OF STORY.

53 posted on 07/17/2015 9:23:19 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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To: RckyRaCoCo

boarders=borders


54 posted on 07/17/2015 9:27:12 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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>> Rather said, and for whatever sick reasons I remember, “George Bush’s big red machine rolls on” <<

A most interesting history lesson. Thanks!


55 posted on 07/17/2015 3:19:09 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

For what it is worth these days, he comes across as intelligent, graceful and sensitive. He’s excellent at handling nasty liberals in interviews and he keeps himself out of negativity baiting.


56 posted on 07/17/2015 4:28:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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