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Smoking ban delayed again (Lexington, KY)
courier journal ^ | 10-7-03 | MICHAEL A. LINDENBERGER

Posted on 10/07/2003 12:55:31 PM PDT by wheelgunguru

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And KY being the #1 tobacco state in the nation, too.
1 posted on 10/07/2003 12:55:32 PM PDT by wheelgunguru
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2 posted on 10/07/2003 12:56:36 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: wheelgunguru
"How long of a stretch is it from breaking ashtrays to burning books?"

About as far a stretch as there is from intellectualism to idiocy. Sheesh. Having a smoking section in a restaurant is as dumb as having a peeing section in a swimming pool.

3 posted on 10/07/2003 1:01:04 PM PDT by Steely Glint ("Communists are just Democrats in a big hurry.")
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To: wheelgunguru
I was born in Lexington (1959) and raised nearby. I could not imagine, as a child, that such a thing would happen, but I hope it does. How clearly I remember my family doctor's nurse, who was also his receptinist, chain-smoking unfiltered Camels in the waiting room....the smell was like sulfuric acid funes or poison gas. My, how things have changed.

I grew up surrounded by tobacco farmers, and the thought just hit me...most of them didn't smoke!!
4 posted on 10/07/2003 1:04:30 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: SheLion; Gabz; Flurry; Just another Joe
A judge with a brain,surprise,surprise!
5 posted on 10/07/2003 1:18:52 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Steely Glint
How original!! Did you think up the "peeing in the pool" thing yourself?----(sarcasm intended)
6 posted on 10/07/2003 1:20:27 PM PDT by Mears
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bump
7 posted on 10/07/2003 1:22:55 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears
Yes, I liked this comment:

The judges questioned whether the smoking ordinance adopted by the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Council was overbroad and vague, potentially infringing on the "rights of the owners of the business establishments to determine whether to permit the use of a legal product on their premises," Court of Appeals Judge Sara W. Combs wrote for the panel yesterday.

I agree with you about the peeing section comment. Really juvenile.

8 posted on 10/07/2003 1:23:21 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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To: Renfield
....the smell was like sulfuric acid funes or poison gas.

Just like that, huh? So, are you dead? Injured? Did your parents sue? If not, why not? What does poison gas smell like? Any ideas? What does sulphuric acid smell like? Any idea?

9 posted on 10/07/2003 1:25:47 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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To: Steely Glint; Tacis
A ping just in case you two have not met.
10 posted on 10/07/2003 1:27:20 PM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: wheelgunguru; SheLion
"How long a stretch is from breaking ashtrays to burning books?",said Judge Combs.

Looks like the judge sees similiarities between the antis and the Nazis.

Good for her!!!!
11 posted on 10/07/2003 1:27:34 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears
Yes, Hitler was strongly against smokers and smoking.

And Hillary was the one who banned smoking in the White House.
12 posted on 10/07/2003 1:31:25 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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To: Renfield
I'll pray for you,Renfield,you must be very ill from all that exposure.
13 posted on 10/07/2003 1:31:31 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Steely Glint; Gabz; Flurry; SheLion; Just another Joe; judithann
If I own a pool and I want to allow peeing in that pool it is my right to do so. It is also your right to not swim in my pool. Do you have it yet? BTW, communists also beleived in confiscation of private property in the name of public good. Be careful what you support!

And yes, I realize no one would want to swim in my pool if I allowed peeing in it. But people do allow smoking in their privately owned establishments and many people desire to frequent them. Hmmmmm, the market would work in both cases!
14 posted on 10/07/2003 1:34:39 PM PDT by CSM (www.banallfun.com - Homepage of all Smoke Gnatzies!)
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To: Steely Glint
Do you go to restaurants that permit smoking?

I don't go to restaurants that don't.

Do you want the government to control everything in your life?
15 posted on 10/07/2003 1:35:29 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I have over 41 years experience, at acting 8 years old. That will be 42 years in Jan 04.)
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To: wheelgunguru
"A legislative body has the right to come in and regulate our businesses. When it's an issue of our citizens' health, they have not only the right to do so, but the duty to do so."

"They would be the shepherds over us, their sheep. Certainly such an arrangement presupposes that they are naturally superior to the rest of us. And certainly we are fully justified in demanding from the legislators and organizers proof of this natural superiority." -- Bastiat

16 posted on 10/07/2003 1:36:57 PM PDT by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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I live in Lexington, and personally am for the ban. Whether you are or not, what bothers me is the ongoing obstruction by the courts in this country. This ban was passed in late June with a start date of Sept 29th. This was to give time for the restaurants to prepare and for any potential lawsuits. The groups opposing the ban waited 2.5 months before filing their suit and asking for a "last minute" injunction. That irritated me also, that they waited until the last minute to go get a judge to delay the process. Anyway, this will go on for months I am afraid.
17 posted on 10/07/2003 1:45:38 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: Grit
The legislature has the duty to regulate a private business to protect the citizens' health?


Did you ever hear such hogwash in your life? They should ban all alcoholic beverages then,and coffee,and salt.and fatty foods,and high carb foods,and why not just shut them all down and we can all stay home?

I want the government out of my face the way it was 30 years ago when the it assumed it's citizens were grown up enough to take care of themselves.Parents took care of the children and the adults took care of themselves.

Soon the legislatures will enter our homes to save us from ourselves. Madness in the land of the free!!!!
18 posted on 10/07/2003 1:50:56 PM PDT by Mears
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To: gswilder
I hope the same nanny government decides to condemn your home and build a WalMart.
19 posted on 10/07/2003 1:53:00 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I have over 41 years experience, at acting 8 years old. That will be 42 years in Jan 04.)
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To: Mears
Feel free to use my smoke gnatzie poem on these idiots who want the government controlling more.


Smoke Gnatzies

They buzz around your head until,
You think it will explode.
You’d like to catch them all and flush,
They’d swirl down the commode.
They agitate, they irritate,
They just won’t go away.
They want to tell you how to live,
To all of them I say.
Be gone you pest, just fly away,
My freedom you won’t take.
If not for all the buzzing,
I’d swear you were a snake.
But snakes are bad, and you’re just sad,
So go and bug some cat.
Cause if you don’t get out of here,
There’s gonna be a splat.

Flurry 9/16/3

20 posted on 10/07/2003 1:59:34 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I have over 41 years experience, at acting 8 years old. That will be 42 years in Jan 04.)
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