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Bush in Tight Spot With N.R.A. Over Gun Legislation
The New York Times ^ | 05/08/03 | ERIC LICHTBLAU

Posted on 05/07/2003 7:41:18 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: RKV
I like the football analogy. I would observe that not all gun owners vote REP, and a strong stand on this would win working class union democratic votes.
Bingo based upon the exit polling data from 2000. According to the stated gun owners 36% of them voted for Gore......... So the gun owners aren't as united as some here would lead you to believe.......

GORE BUSH BUCHANAN NADER
Do you or does someone else in your household own a gun?
% of total category % of category
48 Yes 36 60 0 2
52 No 59 38 0 3

101 posted on 05/07/2003 8:52:49 PM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: kcar
Abstain in 04

Yeah, brilliant plan. Put a Democrat back in the Oval Office. Then you'll get everything you want!

102 posted on 05/07/2003 8:53:03 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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To: TLBSHOW
JOHN ASHCROFT: It is my understanding that the President-elect of the United States has indicated his clear support for extending the assault weapon ban, and I would be pleased to move forward with that position

Seems pretty clear......

103 posted on 05/07/2003 8:53:16 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Mulder
I'll be defending the Constitution, and it won't be from a keyboard anymore.

What are you going to do?

104 posted on 05/07/2003 8:53:33 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: TLBSHOW
I don't see how the fact that Bush was wrong three years ago makes him right now.
105 posted on 05/07/2003 8:53:35 PM PDT by dead
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To: Howlin
"Cut and paste a quote from George W. Bush that backs up your claims"

It can't be done.
93 -howl-



"Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law (the Clinton gun ban), and he supports reauthorization of the current law."
106 posted on 05/07/2003 8:54:43 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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To: Mulder
Bush doesn't have to take a strong stand against this, All he has to do is make sure it doesn't reach his desk. Do you really think the house will pass legislation extend the AWB? even a pocket veto would kill any bill that might reach his desk. I am a NRA member and a Class III owner and I'm quite sure this ban will sunset. We can "IF" this all we want, but the chances of getting the House and Senate to produce a bill supporting this and seeing it come out of Confernece is about as likely as seeing Hillary sprout wings and fly around the capital
107 posted on 05/07/2003 8:54:55 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Freedom is Ringing)
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To: Kevin Curry
You just can't get off the Microsoft theme, can you? "How will you pis$ people off and condescend to them today" is my new proposed motto for the night to you. Yep, it's snotty, but you have made my need for coffee tonight unnecessary, and for that, I thank you.
108 posted on 05/07/2003 8:56:15 PM PDT by ysoitanly
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To: ozzymandus
Would you rather have John F Kerry or John Edwards signing every piece of anti-gun legislation that crosses his desk??

What you must understand is that the left does what the left wants but the pubbies do what the left wants also. Why isn't GW signing every piece of pro gun legislation coming his way? Would Rove allow him to sign if you all wouldn't vote for him if he signed this? Bottom line with me is I'm tired of the scew job done to me as a true conservative & so far the last 3 elections have forced me to vote outside the box. I see no reason to not break that change. This is what happens when you have no truly choices to pick - it's either chocolate or vanilla & put some ice on it.

109 posted on 05/07/2003 8:56:53 PM PDT by Digger
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To: tpaine
You lose. Again.
110 posted on 05/07/2003 8:56:57 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Clear as day
111 posted on 05/07/2003 8:57:18 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Pokey78
Seems to me that one is better served by spending accrued political capital against one's enemies, rather than against one's constitutencies.



112 posted on 05/07/2003 8:57:29 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: MJY1288
I wish I had your confidence. Even if I did I wish Bush would come out and say the right thing. Sorry if that is not politically correct, I know I am not. We shouldn't be ashamed of the Bill of Rights, is all I am saying.
113 posted on 05/07/2003 8:57:41 PM PDT by RKV
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To: Mulder
I'll be defending the Constitution, and it won't be from a keyboard anymore.

Tough talk. What are you going to do?

114 posted on 05/07/2003 8:57:46 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
What are you going to do?

Support and defend the Constitution, from all enemies foreign and domestic.

115 posted on 05/07/2003 8:57:58 PM PDT by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: TLBSHOW
Hey Gifted one, Ashcroft is required to uphold the law as it's written. That is what he took an oathe to do. If the Assualt Weapons Ban sunsets, his oathe requires him to support it's sunset.

get a grip Todd.

To stop the sunset of the AWB will require legislation, the last time I checked John Ashcroft is no longer a legislator. GET A GRIP

116 posted on 05/07/2003 8:58:28 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Freedom is Ringing)
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To: MJY1288; TLBSHOW
Please dont cut and paste some thread where ever doomsdayer is predicting the end of our freedoms. Cut and paste a quote from George W. Bush that backs up your claims

Todd's official logo

117 posted on 05/07/2003 8:59:06 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: ysoitanly
What's your plan, Stan? How are you going to make the world safe for "scary guns" and their owners.

Quit b*tching about Bush and tell me your workable plan.

118 posted on 05/07/2003 8:59:29 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Howlin
Nitpick words all you want, but that quote, and Ascrofts congressional statement says it all.

119 posted on 05/07/2003 8:59:48 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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To: dead
do you think Bush's stated (through a spokesman) support for this law springs from some core belief that the law is just, or is his support based solely on political calculations?

The correct answer is: "Bush is a genius."

Now shush, and get back in lock-step.




120 posted on 05/07/2003 9:01:05 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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