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Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'
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| 2/06/03
| Lawrence Morahan
Posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks
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To: EdReform
As far as the public schools go, the best thing all parents can do to protect their children is to remove the homosexual advocates' "audience" by using the Hatch Amendment Letter - Parental Consent Form for use in the Public Schools. Let the pro-homos spout their propaganda and perversion to a bunch of empty chairs.I would think that may be second-best. Best would be home-schooling.
To: kattracks
Simple fact: If this information was put out in a government funded, public school, then the information must be open for public discussion.
Simple.
Why the judge hasn't dismissed the case with prejudice is completely beyond me!
Mark
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posted on
02/08/2003 7:45:42 PM PST
by
MarkL
To: american spirit
during Hitler's rise to power, homosexuals were used as a cause celebre for a time until he had solidified his power base. At which time it's my understanding that many of those involved with homosexual rights were rounded up along with.... american spirit - you may ber interested in Lively and Abrams' book "The Pink Swastika" - a very well researched and totally fascinating book about the deep connection between homosexuality and the Nazis. Most if not all of it is online at http://www.abidingtruth.com/ Also on that great website are a lot of other materials about the "gay" agenda and how to fight it. I've been reading Lively's stuff for some years and admire him a lot.
To: Aarchaeus
Actually, you are quite right. I stand corrected!
(However, for those parents who aren't homeschooling, the Hatch Amendment Letter can be very helpful.)
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posted on
02/09/2003 5:49:02 AM PST
by
EdReform
(ATTENTION FREEPERS and LURKERS - www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/838661/posts)
To: kattracks
Homosexual advocacy groups have been pursuing lawsuits against Camenker and Scott Whiteman, another parent, for secretly recording, exposing and publicizing the event, in which instructors encouraged children as young as 14 years of age to engage in life-threatening sex acts. One instructor told the students: "Fisting often gets a bad rap." Hmm, is it a classified secret?
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posted on
02/09/2003 6:01:58 AM PST
by
A. Pole
To: madg
No "child abuse" took place... just illegal wiretapping. If nothing wrong took place, why this secrecy? Was it a secret private meeting or a event of public record?
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posted on
02/09/2003 6:13:06 AM PST
by
A. Pole
To: madg
The discussion may have been a little over-the-top, but not by much. Just "a little over-the top"? So what would be much "over-the-top"? And what criminal penalty would you recommend for those whistle-blowers?
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posted on
02/09/2003 6:18:44 AM PST
by
A. Pole
To: Brookhaven
These people have a prolapse of judgement, and risk a prolapse of their "heaven's gate". At the current high school level in extracurricular activities, sodomy is taught/recruited as safe-sex birth control. This catagory of Darwin Awards will be carved from pillars of salt.
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To: madg
debunked and totally fascinating fabricated book... What "madg" stands for? Mad g.?
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02/09/2003 9:22:56 AM PST
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A. Pole
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To: madg
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Camenker and Whiteman broke the law. See Section Q for Civil Remedy."
If they "broke the law," can you show us when and where they were charged and convicted in a criminal court? What fine was levied by the court? Have they been sentenced in any way? If you can't prove these things, then I suggest you refrain from presenting your opinion as a statement of fact.
The current suit is a civil suit. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. It's interesting that the suit was brought by "Boston-based Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders." Here's what they have to say about the case:
Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders - GLAD Cases
(scroll down to near bottom of the page)
"Netherland et al. v. Whiteman et al. (Massachusetts)
CASE PENDING
GLAD is putting the right-wing on notice that they cannot use intimidation tactics to try to stop vitally important sex education information from getting to young people. In violation of Massachusetts wiretapping and privacy laws, Scott Whiteman, Brian Camenker, and the right-wing organization Parents Rights Coalition publicly distributed a tape recording of a sexuality and HIV/AIDS prevention education workshop conducted in March, 2000 at a conference sponsored by GLSEN. GLAD filed suit in Massachusetts Superior Court on behalf of Julie Netherland, a former employee of the Department of Education, and obtained a temporary restraining order (later converted to a preliminary injunction) to stop the defendants from further distributing the tape recording. After a lengthy discovery period, GLAD filed a motion for summary judgment, which is now pending."
Vitally important sex education information?! Here's what Education Commissioner David P. Driscoll said at the time:
State condemns 'gay' sex discussion
"Faced with the irrefutable evidence of his employees' actions, David Driscoll, commissioner of the Massachusetts Department of Education, admitted Tuesday: "The participation of our staff in conversations with students about explicit issues of sexuality outside the realm of AIDS/HIV prevention was wrong. The workshops were of prurient nature, and not educational, and what we heard suggests that the discussion contributed absolutely nothing to the students' understanding of how to avoid AIDS and HIV."
Once again:
"The workshops were of prurient nature, and not educational"
(Remember M.G.L Chapter 272: Sections 28, 29, and 31?)
From the article:
"The Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders did not return calls for comment.
If they have such a strong case against Camenker and Whiteman, why do they refuse to comment?
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posted on
02/09/2003 9:30:37 AM PST
by
EdReform
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To: Kuksool; ladylib; maxwell
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posted on
02/09/2003 10:03:42 AM PST
by
EdReform
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To: madg
I find it interesting that the groundwork you have laid here in defense of these people carefully refutes possible defenses that these two men may bring up. What exactly is your relationship to this case?
My personal opinion is that the will cream your side (pun intended) by claiming to be reporters. What is your take on that?
The court found that "the government's significant interest in protecting privacy is not sufficient to justify the serious burdens the damages provisions of the Wiretapping Acts place on free speech." The law "may not constitutionally be applied to penalize the use or disclosure of illegally intercepted information" when the media does not "participate in or encourage" the illegal interception, the court held.
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