A Reply to Chris Bacon: A Liberal’s Desperate Campaign to Smear Freepers

10-04-2002 | Republican_strategist

[TLBSHOW]

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/748341/posts

[Rebelbase]

I don't run from anyone, least wise a self-inflated egotistical schmuck whose delusional obsessions taint the very movement he proclaims to champion.

[Dianna]

This individual who prompted my reply, Chris P. Bacon, is part of a liberals that run an anti-Freeper web site that basically slanders the Free Republic and despises the idea that conservatives actually have a forum with which to advocate their positions

If Chris can read, perhaps finding a copy of Hayek's The Road to Serfdom would be helpful. He explains the socialism/facism link very well.

[TLBSHOW]

get over it rebel and help fight the rats and elect republicans this fall

[Dutchgirl]

A discussion of the ten commandments in a classroom setting is just as valid as a discussion of the kinds of religious persecution that led to the Mayflower compact.

Our constitution allows for Freedom of Conscience. This is not a thought that sprouted into being from the pen of our founding fathers. The "unenforceable" parts of God's law are explained by the first part of the first commandment from which all the others follow, so conveniently left out here. "I am the Lord, thy God." If you don't have that part down then all the rest is just so much civil code, and "thou shall not kill" has just as much meaning as "thou shall not walk on the grass."

[Rebelbase]

There you go again. Divisive as usual.

[republicman]

An objective look at Nazi-ism shows it is far closer to modern liberalism than conservatism--

Government control of the free market

Resentment and scapegoating of successful groups for the failures of less successful groups

Hitler was an atheist vegetarian

censoring dissenting political speech

Using undemocratic tactics to win elections

A pursuit of their agenda by any means necessary

Antisemitism

etc.

[republicman]

Forgot to mention-

Gun control

Euthanasia

Abortion

[whattajoke]

"I am the Lord, thy God." If you don't have that part down then all the rest is just so much civil code, and "thou shall not kill" has just as much meaning as "thou shall not walk on the grass."

LOL, In other words, without your religion, you would be a homicidal maniac? Sheesh, don't skip church!

[jokar]

This site dates are old and nothing pass 2001. looks like a ghost town and does not appear to be maintained.

[cricket]

I do like my bacon crispy. . .

[cricket]

"Additionally, I just thought I’d respond to this detractor and point out what he is doing as a general guide to others."

. . .it may not change Crispy's mind; but shining the light of truth on these folks is always valuable and necessary, and you did a good job of doing just that.

[Dutchgirl]

LOL, In other words, without your religion, you would be a homicidal maniac? Sheesh, don't skip church!

No. In this society a woman may suck an innocent life from her womb and still not be considered criminal...and homicidal maniacs are defended by nuns. Which brings me back to my original argument- the ten commandments. Highlighting the fact that what is legal is frequently not moral, and vice versa.

A person's sense of morality and justice come from somewhere...even Frued beleived in Zeitgeist, and the ten commandments are part of that. It is Judeo-Christian law that requires the welcoming of strangers, while at the same time warning against adopting the strangers ways and laws.

Our constitution claims the right of free men to govern themselves as being endowed by our Creator. We are a nation of rebels who have been raised to question authority...so authority had better have some answers, or we quickly fall into anarchy. The rule of law is nothing without a concept of absolute justice and absolute truth. Even if you cannot name it "God" you can name it the "voice of reason," as Voltaire did when he wrote about "Forcing men to be Free."

But unless you acknowledge something greater than yourself- there is no law, no government, no freedom...because there is no "noble" standard to judge it against.

The constitution was intended for a moral people. The NJ Supremos have outraged alot of people, by their "unreasonable" interpretation of the law. How can you have morality if you have no standard, and how can you have a standard if you have no concept of good and evil, God and sin.

One of the things I loved in the Ginsburg-Keyes debate was that Ginsburg could never identify what was "just"- only what was "unjust". He could only file a greivance, he could never defend against one, truly a victim's mentality. Five thousand years ago, King David said, "He that ruleth over man, must be just,"(defining it as) "ruling in the fear of God."

I want the people who "rule" over me to feel answerable to a higher authority- and I am not talking about SCOTUS.

And I don't skip church or Sunday School. Last week's lesson was I Samuel on the selection of Saul as King. God complains, "They have rejected me." Because the Israelites would rather not be held personally accountable for their actions. God tells them that kings will take their property and sons and daughters and involve them in senseless wars. The people don't care. If they have a king, they don't have to think for themselves. So God gives them Saul...and MULE-HERDER-because Saul is used to dealing with weak-minded, stubborn creatures who occasionally need a whip to get them to co-operate for their own good.

And what is your definition of government?

[HitmanLV]

Indeed! I think FR should be flattered!

[strela]

I do like my bacon crispy

PING!

Your kind of post, BM!

[DoctorMichael]

"Fascism: A political system in which individual rights may be recognized de jure (though they often are not), but are subjugated to claims of national need or will de facto. In such a system, titular ownership of property may remain in the hands of individuals, while de facto control over property is the exclusive domain of the state. Fascism is generally characterized by extreme authoritarian centralized rule."

Great definition!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like where China (that place idolized by all the 60's liberals from Grace Slick to John and Yoko Lennon) is headed to me.

[VaBthang4]

Jacobi, Manse webmaster@freespeech.org and a little digging gives us jacobi@freespeech.org
2945 Center Green Court South
Suite G
Boulder, CO 80301
(303) 442-8060 (FAX) (303) 442-6472

A little more digging leads to:
freespeech TV
indymedia.org
towardfreedom.com
reclaimdemocracy.org
Public Communicators Inc.
thirdworldtraveler.com

...and a whole host of anti-capitalist thugs and superLiberals.

Pay them no mind.

[VaBthang4]

A peculiar link though:

Using the same fax number is this gentleman...

John Schwartz
Denver Area Educ. Telecomm.
303-442-2707
Fax: 303-442-6472
email: schwartz@usa.net

He is an "at large representative" for the The ITFS Association [Instructional Television Fixed Service].

You can read about them here: http://itfs.org/articles/about_itfs.htm

Affiliated with:

AECT - Association for Educational Communications & Technology

National School Board Association

Wireless Communications Association International

Looks like they kicked the anti-freeper site to the curb and went with public and school television instead.

[Lancey Howard]

Chris who?
Good grief, man, you've just given this absolute nobody more free publicity than he could ever dream of. I'm sorry to even have to post this, since I truly hope this thread dies quick.

You're not working on his behalf are you?

[VaBthang4]

Also using the same fax #:

Resistance
1557 Ninth Street #5
Boulder, CO 80302
Tel: (303) 443-1424
Fax: (303) 442-6472

Whatever that is...

And an Activist Media Project member [Lee Buric] was using the same phone number but I think that thing lost its sails cause I cant find anything else on it.