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Boston Globe ^ | July 9, 2002 | Anne E. Kornblut

Posted on 07/09/2002 3:22:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: RJCogburn
Still, I ask myself how I would react if the name "Bush" were replaced with "Clinton" in this matter

Impossible, when the SEC investigated the matter Bush waived his attorney/client privilege so that the SEC could question his lawyer and Harkens lawyers. Not something a Clinton would ever do.

Also, Bush filed his "intent to sell" form in a timely and correct manner.

He sold his stock at 4.00 a share, the next day the stock traded at 4.25. He sold his stock while it was in a year long slide from about 6 bucks down to about 2 bucks. A few months later, the stock climbed to 8.

This is a coordinated smear job by the DNC and their leftist punk pals at the Slimes and the Boston Globe with the usual accessories in the tv media.

You tell me what is suspicious about the facts as I presented them?

21 posted on 07/09/2002 5:19:42 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RJCogburn
Here is the chart. Bush sold on June 30, 1990 for $4.00 the stock he aquired at 2.50/share.


22 posted on 07/09/2002 5:25:34 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RJCogburn
Still, I ask myself how I would react if the name "Bush" were replaced with "Clinton" in this matter.

If the situation were the same, and Clinton had filed the proper form indicating his intent to sell, and then merely forgot to file the Form 4 for a few months, I'd have no problem with it whatsoever. (Of course, we'd not be able to help wondering about the circumstances under which he acquired the stock in the first place, heh heh.)

In any event, it doesn't matter. This story isn't even going to last through an entire 24-hour news cycle. Once Bush gives his big speech today, this issue will vaporize. All it does is prove more liberal media bias; it certainly won't have any negative effect on Bush's ratings.

23 posted on 07/09/2002 5:29:13 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Woodman
The real story is the malfeasance of the SEC. The SEC was rather vigorous in their enforcement in the early nineties but went to sleep in the late nineties. During the go-go period of the late nineties, anything and everything was done to keep the stock market rising.

The Fed pumped the market even though the price/earning ratios got completely crazy or nonexistent. Now we are suffering the results of the artificial boom. As the economy adjusts to market reality, we have to find someone to blame.

The politicization of the SEC and lack of enforcement procedures is a good place to start looking. In fact, the politicization of all our enforcement agencies is the problem we are facing. Favoritism and cronyism will lead to our downfall if overdone.

With Congressional committees and the Administration looking under every rock to see who they can blame, it appears further efforts to hand off the blame will only increase. This will lead to further deteriation of the economy.

24 posted on 07/09/2002 5:29:27 AM PDT by meenie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hmmmmm..... He bought low and sold high. Isn't that the whole point of the stock market?
25 posted on 07/09/2002 5:30:21 AM PDT by gilor
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To: RJCogburn
Still, I ask myself how I would react if the name "Bush" were replaced with "Clinton" in this matter.

a) It's would be much more likely that Clinton (either he or she) had actually done something "fishy", shady, or outright illegal, and was therefore intent on covering it up.
b) We would not hear about it because the press sycophants would refuse to cover it (old news...not relevant...smear tactics...vast right wing conspiracy...etc.)

26 posted on 07/09/2002 5:33:11 AM PDT by twyn1
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To: meenie
Irrational exuberance coming home to roost. And, for the record, I disagree with President Bush, Clintons leadership? practices, his non sex sex and his casual disregard for the truth did have an effect on this country.

And his and Bob Rubins grimy little fingers are all over the dot.com companies with no product, no revenue and no profits but huge market caps.

27 posted on 07/09/2002 5:33:43 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Nothing wrong with that. This is about the third time the Democrats have publicly rebeaten this dead horse. It must be a badly thrashed skeleton by now. Ann Richards tried to use this as an issue against then candidate Bush during the Texas gubernatorial race and failed. The Dems resurrected this pile of nothing again for the 2000 election but it died quickly as they couldn't get it to stick. The Dems are getting desperate.
28 posted on 07/09/2002 5:41:04 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
You're right, Bush's numbers will go up, the media's will go down and Mr Corzine, Mr Rubin, Mr Clinton, Mrs Daschle and Mrs Bingaman, along with that loud mouthed McCaulliffe better duck cause some of this crap is coming their way.
29 posted on 07/09/2002 5:45:35 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
And people are making a big deal over the " things aren't exactly black and white when it comes to accounting procedures" quote.

My boyfriend, an accountant, has been saying that for years. He said a good accountant is one that exploits the 'gray areas' in procedures without breaking laws, which are definitely writ in black and white.

30 posted on 07/09/2002 5:48:39 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: mystery-ak
No one is going to mention Terry McAwful's *windfall* cause he is pulling the strings with this story..

They will flog this story to death to keep the public eye off the real story - How the Clinton administration winked at all of these shenanigans to help out their buddies and to keep the stock market bubble from popping before the election.

31 posted on 07/09/2002 5:51:55 AM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: jwalsh07
when the SEC investigated the matter Bush waived his attorney/client privilege so that the SEC could question his lawyer and Harkens lawyers. Not something a Clinton would ever do.

Good point, as is the rest of your comment. As I said, I count Bush as an honest and decent man, and I suppose my thoughts are just another example of how the Clintons have poisoned the water.

32 posted on 07/09/2002 6:59:20 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
the Boston Globe forgot that the idea of "news" is that it's supposed to be "new".

The Globe is a Party organ. What is good for the Party it prints (without regard for factual content, as in the above batch of innuendo. And without concern for news value). What is bad for the Party it spikes.

During the last election cycle, it spiked its token conservative columnist for the duration of the cycle. ISTR he was replaced by alernating a moderate and a lesbian. (Not that lesbians are strangers to the ed page. Most of the full-timers there are gay, males and females).

One of the biggest laughs is when the Globe, long before it "endorses" the Democrat, runs "factual profiles" on candidates. The Democrat will receive a front page or front-of-section 20,000-word tone-poem of love, with pictures that might have been shot by Bob Guccione and 200 mentions of the candidate's name. Exactly as it will be written on the ballot, and prominently in the headline, which will be something like, "Schoolchildren Admire Senator John Kerry's Greatness."

The Republican gets half the word-count, coupled with a picture that makes him either look "dumb" or "scarily weird" (cf. Coulter, Scandal), and his "profile" hangs under a headline that says something like "Questions About Scandal Stick To Candidate".

The Globe is the "newspaper" that sought JFK's permission to run an article on Ted's ejection from Harvard (and that agreed to downplay the scandal), that bought Ted's pathetic "I kept diving" alibi for Chappaquiddick and shouted down those asking for an enquiry, that unblinkingly accepted John Kerry's changes of story about his "two tours in Vietnam" (he was there but six months, although honourably), his medals (he threw them away for a publicity stunt, and then cooked up a far-fetched story), and his leadership of antiwar and "atrocity" groups. The Globe also was silent when Kerry bribed the city of Cambridge to move a fireplug from in front of his house to in front of a neighbour's, to free up parking on the crowded street for his guests at the expence of a mere citizen's (a word Kerry finds synonymous with "chump.")

Basically, the Boston Globe serves for its Party the same abased, servile role that the minions of the Ministry of Truth served for Big Brother. Any similarity to actual news gathering and dissemination are strictly in the packaging.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

33 posted on 07/09/2002 7:01:12 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: LisaFab
He said a good accountant is one that exploits the 'gray areas' in procedures without breaking laws, which are definitely writ in black and white.

Your friend is wrong and its accountants like him that will kill the profession.

A good accountant is one that puts the needs of the users of the financial statements first and uses the "gray areas" for that purpose. A good accountant will have the people skills in order to convince his client to take the high road.

Your friend is the type of accountant that brought us Enron. We don't need that kind of accountant in the profession. He should become a democrat and run for office.

34 posted on 07/09/2002 7:07:37 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
A good accountant is one that puts the needs of the users of the financial statements first and uses the "gray areas" for that purpose.

And how does your statement differ from my friend's?

And before you disparage the career of a man you know nothing about, please be advised that he is apalled at the immoral (and probably illegal) flouting of accepted GAP rules by these men. And he also supports legislation to remove advisory functions from audit houses (legislation opposed, by the way, by our own senator Jumpin' Joe Leiberman).

35 posted on 07/09/2002 7:38:31 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: LisaFab
Maybe it was your use of the word "exploits".
36 posted on 07/09/2002 7:54:16 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The Boston Globe is just another arm of The DemocRat Party!!!
37 posted on 07/09/2002 8:00:44 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: VRWC_minion
Okay, fair enough. The point is that you, my friend and I agree with President Bush that these gray areas exist whether for usage or exploitaton, call it what you will.

For the press to go berserk over a simple statement of fact is what galls me.

Did you happen to hear Harold Ford (D-Tenn) on Imus this morning? Said that he was willing to 'forgive' Bush in the Harkin case until he heard the 'black and white' statement! Now he is 'shocked...shocked!'

38 posted on 07/09/2002 8:01:40 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: jwalsh07
It looks to me(The Chart)as if"W" sold too soon!!!
39 posted on 07/09/2002 8:03:45 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: VRWC_minion
Accounting is not an exact science. As evidence I offer the fact that no two accountants will come up with the same bottom line on a relatively simple IRS filing.

My wife is an accountant and I have heard her say many times that the voluminous rules and regualtions are a nightmare.

40 posted on 07/09/2002 8:03:50 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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