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Weeks Before 1995 Oklahoma Bombing, Government Warned of Possible Terror Attacks
Associated Press ^ | 20 June 2002 | John Solomon

Posted on 06/20/2002 10:39:50 AM PDT by I_Publius

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THE DAILY OKLAHOMAN
August 11, 1995, Friday CITY EDITION NEWS; Pg. 1

2 Indicted in Bombing McVeigh, Nichols Face 11 Counts; Fortier Pleads Guilty to Lesser Charges Grand Jury Cites "Others" In Conspiracy


This story was written from reports by staff writers Robby Trammell, John Parker, Nolan Clay, Randy Ellis and Chris Casteel.

(snip)

"No matter how thin we make our pancakes, they always have two sides," McVeigh's lead defense attorney, Stephen Jones, said at a news conference. "We urge the public not to accept the grand jury's
actions as the final and definitive answer as to who is behind the Oklahoma City bombing."  Jones, an Enid attorney, also suggested Islamic terrorists might be behind the Oklahoma City attack.

Jones disclosed he has been contacted by a government "informant" who claims to have told FBI agents last September of a plot to bomb federal buildings. Jones said the informant, after being given immunity from prosecution, told FBI agents he had met with American citizens and "either Latin Americans or Arabs" about the plot.

Jones said the informant claims he told the FBI and the U.S. Marshal's office "that a federal building would be blown up or destroyed by a bomb during the middle of April 1995."

"There are obviously other questions that need to be explored," the court-appointed attorney said.

(snip)  (The rest is unrelated to this thread, but I HAD to include the following for posterity.)...

Grand jurors made only one reference to possible unknown co-conspirators.

Agents spent weeks searching for another bomb suspect labeled "John Doe 2" who was thought to have helped rent the bomb truck.

Three sketches were released worldwide.

Agents later concluded the sketches resembled an innocent Army private who had helped a friend rent a similar truck a day later.

But they said then the investigation was continuing into other possible suspects.

Reno said Thursday: "What we will do is pursue every lead based on the evidence, but we have charged everyone involved that we have evidence of at this point. "

The lead prosecutor, Hartzler, said: "The indictment alleges that there are unknown co-conspirators. We will continue the investigation. We will continue it until we determine whether or not there are others who aided and abetted these conspirators that are charged today.

"Obviously, by implication of the indictment, you know that the grand jury found probable cause to believe that there are others who were involved. But bear in mind, the indictment alleges that McVeigh and Nichols planned the bombing, gained the materials, made the bomb and delivered the bomb. "

FBI Director Louis J. Freeh said federal buildings still could not be considered completely safe.

"I think the threat is still present and still significant enough for everyone to be concerned about it," he said.

(Now, wasn't that special?!)


Who was that informant? Carol Howe?

 

41 posted on 06/20/2002 1:43:56 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: thinden; Uncle Bill; Betty Jo; honway; aristeides; agrandis; roughrider; ntrulock; Gary Aldrich; ...
Do you think Solomon by his linited, watered down "hang outs" is trying to take the edge off and let t he public down easy to do damage control to minimize Federal cupability and accountability(politicians, COngress, nsa,CIA,FBI,DOJ,BATF, Marshals etc) for the deliberate mishandling of the OKC bombing? If he is, is he doing it on purpose because of knowingly taking directions from possible handlers or is he being misled and does not know it??

Sadly there will accountablilty for the feds lies and coverups even if they continue lying because they are still not getting it right to protect us from the next terror attack.

Proof of this is that we had 9/11/2001 in spite of my pesistent complaints and pleadings with COngressional legal cousels and COngressmen and Senators after April 19, 1999 about Failed FBI and Federal policies of deliberatley allowing known AlQaueda and Hamas terrorists to circulate in the US for years without doing anyting (Ali Mohammed and Atta and Hanjour and Al Shihei,etc).

The FBI and CIA will not be held accountable because to do that the COngress would also have to hold itself accountable which Congress does not have the guts to do since all they want is the perks of re-election.

42 posted on 06/20/2002 1:45:04 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: epluribus_2
"We are in for a growing stream of tips, leads, and leaks from the good guys so that we are ready for the coming war. It's going to be clear as day that we have been hit for years and the fat loser dishonest creepy phoney that everyone used to love will have about as much respect as a pink-panty-wearing-pedi/homophile."

I think you're right! A lot is going to be leaked out to us in the next few months before we begin the next phase, so the country as a whole will realize what was happening. I wouldn't want to be in x42's or hitlery's shoes when more of the sheeple start to wake up.
43 posted on 06/20/2002 1:49:45 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Nita Nupress; honway; lawdog; Ronneil; Uncle Bill; Fred Mertz; aristeides; thinden; rdavis84; ...
Nita, the informant you refer to in reply #42 was Cary Gagan who Jones met with and who is described in detail in my reply #17. Thanks for the post of the Daily OK article referring to the informant.

Please answer my Freepmail to you. Thanks.

44 posted on 06/20/2002 1:51:37 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Nita Nupress; All
Correction to reply #44:

I meant to refer to Nita's reply #41 rather than reply #42. Sorry.
45 posted on 06/20/2002 1:53:13 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Given the appeasement offered to the Saudi Arabians after 9/11 and the fact that not a single solitary Saudi has been deported from the US since 9/11 and given the mantra "islam is peace" was chanted continuously shortly after OKC and again immediately after 9/11 and given that BOTH the previous adminstration and the current administration have done little if anything regarding the islamist threat in America, do you expect an escalation in the attacks against America and Western Civilization by islamists ? (Hey ! I thought I'd toss a softball to ya'. :) )
46 posted on 06/20/2002 1:57:15 PM PDT by pyx
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the ping...we need to get to the bottom of this and demand full disclosure. Bush didn't send everyone out to deny and cover up who made the threats prior to 9-11 so he could blame and attack Iraq for instance. It appears Clinton did just that so he could (as Jesse might say) "contain the blame" to just "whites on the right."

What are the chances that it was just McVeigh by sheer chance that set off a massive bomb at the same federal building that was in the immediate target of Muslim extremists? Anyone for ZERO? Occam's razor cuts right through all the B.S.

"What did President Clinton know and when did he know it?"

"My constituents are now asking these questions!"

47 posted on 06/20/2002 1:58:28 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Nita Nupress
>>> Jones disclosed he has been contacted by a government "informant" who claims to have told FBI agents last September of a plot to bomb federal buildings. Jones said the informant, after being given immunity from prosecution, told FBI agents he had met with American citizens and "either Latin Americans or Arabs" about the plot.<<<

Latin Americans??? Like Padilla?

48 posted on 06/20/2002 2:00:23 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: thinden
Excellent work thinden. You really dissected that very well.
49 posted on 06/20/2002 2:03:40 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: OKCSubmariner
Do you think Solomon by his linited, watered down "hang outs" is trying to take the edge off and let t he public down easy to do damage control to minimize Federal cupability and accountability...? ... If he is, is he doing it on purpose because of knowingly taking directions from possible handlers or is he being misled and does not know it??

That was my first optimistic thought after seeing this article. "Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy!!! Someone is trying to pave the way for the upcoming dirt on Clinton's coverup and manipulation of 'The Islamic Problem.' Yippee Yo Ki-yay!!"

But then I came out of my dream state and remembered those stolen FBI files and all the compromised politicians inside the beltway.

It just ain't gonna happen. No way, no how, never, ever, ever.

Well, I take that back. It'll happen the day Trent Lott, Orin Hatch, and the rest of the Wimpy Wonders grow some gonads.

Like I was saying...

(On another matter, check your mail in a sec.)

50 posted on 06/20/2002 2:04:38 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: codebreaker
And that somehow it was 'lost' by FBI officials..

Hey Man! It ain't their fault!

51 posted on 06/20/2002 2:06:37 PM PDT by carenot
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To: pyx; Betty Jo; Donald Stone
Here is a swing at your softball pitch in reply #46 (thanks):

Bush is deluded when it comes to Islam and the Bush proposals for giving Jerusalem to the PLO. Bush war on terror will fail in the end if Bush continues to be blinded by Isalm and by his business partners and campaign donars that are Saudis and backers of Hamas and ALQaeda.

Bush still will not call Arafat and the PLO terrorists. He still believes the AMerican Muslim COuncil and Saudi propaganda that they are freedom fighters. Bush is still protecting Hamas cells in OKC and the US! Busg abd his attorneys were involved at Holy Land Foundation in Dallas until 9/11. Soon after taking office, Bush ordered the FBI to stop investigating Saudi businessmen and officials (friends and business assoicates of Bush-this is fact and I am a conservative Republican) and the Bin Laden family in the US for their support of ALQaedea and Hamas in the US and worldwide. Any chance that if Bush had not done this that 9/11 might have been averted??

52 posted on 06/20/2002 2:08:10 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
In case anyone is wondering, Occam's razor has been otherwise used to say that a big "conspiracy" and gov't agencies lying about it is unreasonable, and the simplest answer is to just trust the FBI and Tim McVeigh's word.

In this case, knowing what we know now about, it would be more than foolish to say the bombing timed with prior known threats was just a coincidence and even more outlandish to suggest the FBI and Tim McVeigh should be taken at their word. And now we also know what investigators knew before, that there are strong links between neo-Nazis and Islamofascists.

53 posted on 06/20/2002 2:16:16 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: OKCSubmariner; All
Gina Davis on John Gibson right now!
54 posted on 06/20/2002 2:16:33 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: I_Publius
Bump to help this article grow legs.
55 posted on 06/20/2002 2:18:12 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: Alamo-Girl
Bump for the downside legacy database.
56 posted on 06/20/2002 2:19:14 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: I_Publius
Saddam did OKC. Clinton covered it up and blamed it on his political enemies. Bush is now covering up for Clinton.
57 posted on 06/20/2002 2:36:57 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: OKCSubmariner
Do you think Solomon by his linited, watered down "hang outs" is trying to take the edge off and let t he public down easy to do damage control to minimize Federal cupability and accountability(politicians, COngress, nsa,CIA,FBI,DOJ,BATF, Marshals etc) for the deliberate mishandling of the OKC bombing?

in a nut shell: I think soloman is carrying somebody's water. there was more ass coverin' going on there than you'll find at the jockey factory.

58 posted on 06/20/2002 3:03:05 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Lexington Green
"Saddam did OKC. Clinton covered it up and blamed it on his political enemies. Bush is now covering up for Clinton."

Believe it or not, the terrorists are an even larger threat than the Clintonists.

I'm glad President Bush is spending our limited time and resources unraveling the web of Islamists in our midst and not on unraveling the web of felonies committed by the Clintons.

Clinton cannot escape the full judgment of history...and he knows it.

59 posted on 06/20/2002 4:25:48 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: spycatcher; OKCSubmariner
In case anyone is wondering, Occam's razor has been otherwise used to say that a big "conspiracy" and gov't agencies lying about it is unreasonable, and the simplest answer is to just trust the FBI and Tim McVeigh's word.

Thanks for the definition of Occam's razor !!!

Kinda ironic that conspiracy charges are the most frequently used charges by federal prosecutors in the U.S.

I guess the LSD experiments on GI's and syphillis experiments on black GI's by the U.S. government never happened according to the government.

60 posted on 06/20/2002 4:28:59 PM PDT by Donald Stone
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