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It seems to me that Matt wasn't quite listening here, appears to be one comment taken out of context.
1 posted on 06/03/2002 10:04:47 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
Apparently, the network news orgs are now using Drudge and Rush as sources. Did anyone see the NBC Nightly News tonight? They played the "George W. Al Gore" clip from Limbaugh's show today. I was shocked.
553 posted on 06/03/2002 4:25:10 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: hchutch, fightinJAG, truthkeeper, Bommer, Dales, galt-jw, Tuor, Mudboy Slim, Sci Fi Guy, Redcloak
A friend alerted me to this thread via FReepmail. I've tried to skim many of the 600+ replies here (whew!), so I figure I've earned the right to respond to a few of them. :)

One poster accused Rush of losing whatever skill he had at understanding the political zeitgeist and the political context.... and....never having anything uplifting to say, just whining all the time.

It's about time we all started whining (and preferably loudly and long), because those who hold the federal (executive, legislative, and judicial) reins in this country are not listening to those of us who know what their power is supposed to entail (and where it should end). Not only are they not performing that relatively small list of services which they are called to do, but they are, instead, doing all manner of things which they are forbidden to do by the very document which serves as their blueprint.

I stopped listening to Rush many months ago, so am not really familiar with his latest pet peeves, favorite sports stories, cigar recommendations, or causes du jour. But, from the sounds of it, I may have to begin listening to him again (or at least begin re-testing the E.I.B waters).

As for Mr. Limbaugh losing whatever skill he had at understanding the political zeitgeist and the political context....There's entirely too much political everything being considered these days (zeitgeist and context notwithstanding). It's time to put political considerations aside and start focusing on two concepts....and two concepts only: (1) reclaiming a consitutional republic form of government, and (2) survival.

No more sitting back and stroking one's figurative beard and deciding what the (so-called) civilized thing to do is. America is concerning herself with (so-called) civilized behavior moreso than she is with her own, and the free world's, survival.

Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Egypt, North Korea, Saudi Arabia....political correctness, concern for world opinion, the practice of global civility (and maybe even the valuing of human life and liberty) are not a part of their lexicon. So, at least during these most perilous times, neither can they (other than the life and liberty thing) be a part of ours.

This country is desperately in need of Reagan-esque leadership (the kind that places America first, and governs based on right rather than politically correct, or politically expedient, decision making). Such leadership is not forthcoming from G. W. Bush.

The man is seeking a negotiated peace with people who believe their destiny is to kill those who do not share their religious (*cough*) views, and who will not stop the killing until their neighbor state (who merely wants to be left alone) is eradicated.

The man is preaching conservative governance, and then supporting or signing every unconstitutional/pork-laden/liberty-destroying/dollar-hungry bill that is brought to his attention or laid upon his desk. Not one veto since taking office a year and a half ago. Not one.

All one needs to do is take a good look at Bush's stance on the (either already signed by him into law, or pending) education bill....farm bill....partiot act....homeland security....campaign finance reform....immigration.... federalization of airport security....healthcare entitlements....Hardly anything contained in any of them that promotes government the likes of which the founders envisioned. And lots of big-government spending and regulating which will result in increased federal power over the states and individual citizens, the greatest increase in federal government spending in history, and more incremental loss of God-given, constitutionally-insured liberties for all of us.

I'm not (nor are most of the other 'whiners' on this thread) a Bush hater. I voted for him, and will again, if he once again represents the lesser of two evils. Those on this thread who are using that term fail to see the difference between hating a man and voicing the fact that you are being betrayed by him.

My friend (he who alerted me to this thread :) calls Bush's political philosophy of governance 'stealth conservatism' --- it's there, but you can't see it, touch it, taste it, nor feel it. I think he's got it nailed.

677 posted on 06/03/2002 6:24:14 PM PDT by joanie-f
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Now, I finally understand the meaning of "rascally republican" and it's our good President, for sure. He is perhaps practicing the fine art of "pretzel diplomacy". This is evidenced by the twists to the left, and turns to the right, and slides to the center of his domestic and foreign policy positions.

He's winning in his foreign policy postures as his administration is breaking the code of the "evil doer" network and he will eventually successfully bring them down. And in the meantime, domestically, he has developed a much more modern playbook that certainly has successfully blocked and muzzled the old left's stale and predictable political maneuvering. Each time the left gathers strength to rise up with over confidence, Bush easily swats them away like pesky mosquitos.

The fact that some of the twists to the left and slides to the center domestically are like rubbing salt into the wounds of conservative principles and visions.

Beats me, though, really what is going on, but in the final analysis, IMHO, President Bush is thinking long range and lasting legacy in his ardent and fervent protection of America against the "evil doers" and thinking short term on the domestic perhaps to get us into the election with a winning opportunity to win stunningly more republican seats in Congress.

It is not as easy to frankly know what is going on, as Rush states, we aren't in planning meetings with the President, and without him actually sitting down and telling conservatives just what the heck is going on around here, who knows? But, he is perfectly clear about the present dangers America faces from her enemies. Even most of the left is aware of this first and foremost fact after picking themselves up again for their next attempt in trying to lower the President's popularity. To date, they have failed miserably.

750 posted on 06/03/2002 7:14:19 PM PDT by harpo11
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Since Rush Limbaugh is leading the charge by criticing Bush( probably justified in some cases) I would like someone ,preferably the President to go on his show and make the administration's case....
767 posted on 06/03/2002 7:23:26 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; Nick Danger; rintense; Lazamataz; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2
I came to this thread late and don't care to go through 750 posts, as I have a simple question...

I caught about 10 minutes of Rush today and heard mention that this Global Warming report was sent to the UN (?) last week

Is that true?

Because if it is, I'm wondering why we didn't hear about it until yesterday.

Was there a story that I missed or that got buried?



775 posted on 06/03/2002 7:26:55 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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I have more respect for Rush since he has come out against Bush. I never liked Bush; I thought he was only for big business and other conservative issues meant nothing to him. Now I see that all he is interested in is bringing in illegal Mexicans for American slave labor and insuring that he wins the next election. He is just like Clinton was: leaning so far the other way from his party that he is unrecognizable for what he is supposed to stand for. This has really opened my eyes to politics. I thought that the Clinton "kool-aid" drinkers, who supported Clinton no matter what he did, were restricted to Democrats, but I see that the "Bush-bots" are just as loyal. What does it gain you to have your man in office if he doesn't impliment what you stand for? Or even worse: supports what you are against? Rush has courage to stand up for what he believes and I admire him for speaking the truth, even if those with blind loyality bash him for it.
806 posted on 06/03/2002 7:39:44 PM PDT by Merdoug
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Folks, as much as we disagree with this, this isn't a 'flip-flop.' His position on global warming is the same as what it was during his campaign. The President is saying basically the same thing he's always said on this issue. This is no surprise.
913 posted on 06/03/2002 8:24:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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"Bush is just doing this so that liberals won't have an issue to attack him on."

I thought Bush had integrity when I voted for him. I was wrong apparently. I'll have to start calling him "Revolving Door Jorge."

1,023 posted on 06/03/2002 10:15:01 PM PDT by brat
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What's next, gun control?
If Bush sticks with this crap I'll never vote again.
What the hell was the point of voting out Clinton/Gore?
Time to toss out the rose colored glasses!
1,072 posted on 06/03/2002 11:28:07 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: hchutch
The only part of this story that surprises me, is how many other people are surprised at this apparent flip-flop.

I find it truly amazing that there is still anyone who believes that Dubya is conservative.

At least I don't have to accept any responsibility for Dubya's liberal actions.  I didn't vote for him.

 

1,084 posted on 06/04/2002 1:37:24 AM PDT by Action-America
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Bush is acting like Al Gore in more ways than one. The Fram Bill ($170 billion), the Education Bill - bloat city bpoth. What's next? Gay Day at the White House?
1,132 posted on 06/04/2002 6:58:04 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: hchutch
One word: McCain
1,154 posted on 06/04/2002 7:36:59 AM PDT by meandog
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Rush seems to be "ripping" Bush almost daily now about one thing or another that Bush has caved-in on to the Liberals. I think Rush said 11 or 13 different major items.

And some of you Bushies were on my case recently in here for doing the same thing.

I voted for Bush, but I didn't vote for him to give away the entire ship to Daschle.

1,168 posted on 06/04/2002 8:07:48 AM PDT by Z-28
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Rush is Right. Bush is Left. 'Nough Said.
1,174 posted on 06/04/2002 8:23:44 AM PDT by VoodooEconomist
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1,345 posted on 06/06/2002 6:19:18 PM PDT by Bob J
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