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Learn the Facts about Hunting
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Posted on 04/08/2002 4:23:46 PM PDT by Sungirl

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To: Sungirl
At least hunters have the guts to kill what they eat. You? You think "someone else" ought to do it. Liberal? right?
141 posted on 04/08/2002 6:58:19 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Sungirl
How many animals actually drop dead on the spot? How many get away with a bullet in them only to suffer for days on end.

Pretty much every deer dies within minutes, or at least within a half hour. That is precisely why we practice to make a humane quick killing shot. I shudder at people who shoot at moving game. It is the rare person who can reliably "wingshot" a running deer and we hunters know it.

With a bow shot the initial sting of the arrow, which at the speed it's traveling is going to feel not much worse than a hornet sting and then will pretty much be over. Then the animal will feel tired and dizzy as blood pressure is lost immediately to the lungs. It will run and fall down, often they don't even realize they are in danger. An animal that is gut shot and isn't frightened in the process may suffer, but animals don't realize they are going to die. They don't form emotional bonds with others the way we do. So they aren't lying there panicking with thoughts of their own mortality and sayig goodbye to their friends/children/loved onesthe way we humans would. It's all very matter of fact to them.

142 posted on 04/08/2002 6:59:33 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: going hot
Great point. I would rather the animal have a natural life of course. Ever kill a crow or a squirrel?
143 posted on 04/08/2002 6:59:49 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
Don't tell me the hunters are shooting cows and chickens now too! :}

We only shoot the ones that don't have "cow" or "chicken"painted on them.

144 posted on 04/08/2002 6:59:56 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: Sungirl
Rather, deer hunters seek out the bucks that have the largest rack. This desire for "trophy sized" bucks can and has had detrimental effects on the health of deer herds. First, hunting can impact the social structure of a herd because hunters kill the mature males of a herd and create a disproportionate ratio of females to males. It is not uncommon to find a herd that has no bucks over the age of three. Second, genetically inferior bucks may be left to propagate the species, thereby weakening the overall health of the herd.

Because hunters largely want to shoot only bucks, hunting may cause artificial inflation of deer populations. When these populations reach levels that available habitat cannot support, increased disease and starvation may be the result.

It is untrue that most hunters ONLY want to shoot bucks. State Game Wardens often limited deer hunts to bucks only as a way of increasing deer herds. Now, (I have heard) deer are more numerous in America than they were at the time the pilgrims landed. As a result, to the farmers of the midwest deer are laregly viewed as rats with antlers. I kill several deer a year...one for my freezer and one for my mothers freezer. While these are usually does, If I see a good buck I'll nail him, too. Nothin' wrong with having some hardware on the wall to look at while I'm chewin' on some venison.

As to dogs, I've killed several that were killing my chickens. You see sungirl, you PETA types who like those cute little puppies get tired of them when they pee on your fancy $5,000 carpet, so you drive them out to the country in your $50,000 jaguar and turn them loose. They get mean and hungry, try to kill my chickens, and I've got to kill them and bury them.

My daughter turns 16 this year. Going to get her first deer this year...and she's really excited about it. She's a great shot.....she can drop a prarie dog at 200 yards with that .243 of hers. Oh yeah...prarie dogs have cost me and my neighbors over $40,000 in the last 5 years in injured livestock...almost enough to buy one of them thar fancy jaguars.

145 posted on 04/08/2002 7:00:59 PM PDT by RepRivFarm
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To: airborne
BTW, my rule for hunting has always been, "Don't kill it unless you're gonna eat it!"

I wish they were all like you.

146 posted on 04/08/2002 7:01:59 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
So now that you can't make your point against hunters you're going to try and side track us once again like you did on the Sarah Brady thread (from gun control onto hunting), onto the Catholic church?
147 posted on 04/08/2002 7:03:53 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
I gotta tell ya,all day long as I was catching crappie,my mouth was watering for the feast I just had. Yes,I filet them while they are still alive and it doesn't bother me in the least.What bothers me is when one dies before I can clean him and I have to throw him away.Fresh fried crappie,known as white perch in some areas and as sacrelait in Louisiana.Now when it comes to steak,knock his horns off, wipe his ass and send him on in.
148 posted on 04/08/2002 7:04:10 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Terriergal
Oh whoops that's right I did take a little buck out of that area. He tasted like Outback Steak house.
149 posted on 04/08/2002 7:05:17 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: tet68
SOmebody else brought up religion first. SO...why not make the comparison? Remember I am called a terrorist for supporting my animal groups. SO I am not allowed to defend myself?
150 posted on 04/08/2002 7:05:18 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
Don't know about but my knees shake, My hands tremble, and My Stomach Growls for the meal to Come
151 posted on 04/08/2002 7:05:50 PM PDT by Sir Beowolf
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To: Sungirl
Don't know about "Wissa" but my knees shake, My hands tremble, and My Stomach Growls for the meal to Come
152 posted on 04/08/2002 7:08:07 PM PDT by Sir Beowolf
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To: Sungirl
Well - I have never hunted any type of animal in my life - I do drink though - and you and this article are making me WANT to get drunk and go kill something.........
153 posted on 04/08/2002 7:08:29 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Sungirl
I just found this thread so I am not aware of your entire opinion on hunting but I will say this...I approve of hunting as long as the hunted animal is used for food rather than just becoming another carcass. I am bothered by those who hunt only for the hell of it.
154 posted on 04/08/2002 7:08:52 PM PDT by inflorida
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To: Sungirl
Your image of hunters is so far left of liberal propaganda that the communist party must be very proud of you. It doesn't take a village, just the village idiot to make an ass of yourself, and you have done well.

I bet you have never gone hunting or are friends with a hunter. You PETA propaganda officials really need to grow up and live in reality instead of your groupie drug induced dreamworld.

You need to be banned from spreading this leftist propaganda on a forum dedicated to truth, justice, and the American way, you lying sack of doorknobs!

155 posted on 04/08/2002 7:09:01 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Sungirl
Just wondering....how come it is so enjoyable to kill an animal? How do you feel when you just killed it.

Actually I thought I would cry when I got my first deer. But I felt very strangely calm and serious, and full of awe.

156 posted on 04/08/2002 7:10:15 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Sungirl
SO I am not allowed to defend myself?

Of course you are. When do you plan to start?

Cyrano

157 posted on 04/08/2002 7:11:02 PM PDT by Cyrano
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To: Sungirl
You can defend yourself but atleast try to make sense.
158 posted on 04/08/2002 7:12:22 PM PDT by HRC
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To: Sungirl
Still waiting for an answer, Sunny.
159 posted on 04/08/2002 7:14:06 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Sungirl
Just wondering....how come it is so enjoyable to kill an animal? How do you feel when you just killed it.

Primarilly the enjoyment of the hunt itself. Getting out in nature, seeing more wildlife in one day than most people see in their entire lives. But also the challenge of matching wits and skill with animals or birds that been evolving for millions of years to learn better ways of avoiding predators... including man. The kill is of secondary importance to whether I have a great day hunting, but I DO get enjoyment out of killing my own food... as I get enjoyment out of eating vegetables I've raised myself. Feeling of self-sufficiency... feeling of getting back to accepting the challenge of taking on nature one-on-one. Hunting is NOT just shooting or killing... it's a LOT more challenging than you'd expect. Takes a lot of preparation, skills learned over time. You have to learn to think about what the animal or bird is thinking... what do you have to do to be in the right place to get a shot.

And how do I feel? Satisfied... and even a better feeling when I watch my son hunting with me shoot a duck or goose.

160 posted on 04/08/2002 7:14:58 PM PDT by Wissa
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