Bigot.
Can you PROVE that "unlawful" mean "Illegals?"
Posted on 03/19/2002 1:49:07 AM PST by Sabertooth
"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; ... "
Just to name two obvious ones.
His lies are all over the net and certainly FR (today). I don't lie nor exagerrate; it is unfortunate that you belong to a click of folks on FR that can't stand truth; you would rather lie out your teeth about folks that tell the truth for your sinking captain.
As for the other part, an invasion is when someone enters the country with hostile intent. If you were to define immigration as invasion then Congress would have no choice but to seal off the borders to all foreigners, be they immigrants, tourists, businessmen, or whatever; as Congress is required - not allowed, but required - to fend off invasion.
Best Regards!
Buckeroo
Bigot.
Can you PROVE that "unlawful" mean "Illegals?"
It's the same thing with immigration. The popular metaphor for it nowadays is "invasion". As long as it's recognized as a metaphor, then that's fine, but it's now at the point where it's being used to guide the interpretation of a legal document.
As the Chinese say, the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right name. It's something conservatives would do well to take heed of. We can leave the reality-redefining to the liberals. They're much better suited to the task anyway. ;-)
You seem to suggest, that America cannot and is incapable of guarding our own borders about any unwanted folks that would attempt to violate the spirit of our sovereign; you seem to argue with mere legalistic "mumbo-jumbo" about everything against being a free nation.
Now I know it wouldn't work too well to have each state patrolling its own borders, screening everyone, but perhaps they can do something even more effective: arrest - I don't mean deport, I mean arrest - those non-U.S. citizens who are found to have entered illegally. Put them on trial and mete out appropriate (proportionate to the crime) punishment.
I also wonder if your new hero(grand wizard Byrd) will support the Attorney General having the right to fire anybody in the INS for incompetance. Currently he can't, because of people like Byrd.
I really hate to come back from vacation and agree with you, but on this point I do. Byrd is an idiot, and the border security section of this bill, H.R. 1885, would have passed before the new year, if it was not for Byrd.
On another topic, if you lump salary and benefits together then yes, tax dollars are used. No tax dollars are used in my salary, but they do pay for the benefits of the job. To me it‘s apples and oranges, but I can see how others may think they are the same.
The majority the illegal aliens that applied for 245(i) in 2001, were employee sponsored, and had no family in the US. 245(i) will keep some families together, but that is not what it is about. Also, after the 2001 245(i), marriage fraud cases increased.
200,000 people mostly by not fault of their own became illegal, such as entering on a valid visa getting married and the beauacracy makes them illegal because their visa ran out.
This is also a false statement. If they entered legally, and got married to a US citizen and filed the proper paperwork before their visa expired, then they would not need 245(i). But they did not file their paperwork on time or they let their visa expire before getting married or filling the proper paperwork. If they need 245(i), it is because they entered the US illegally or failed to file the proper paperwork on time. The fault is theirs alone.
In an hour and a half at 3:00 PM PDT / 6:00 PM EDT 27 Mar 2002
Foxnews' Carl Cameron will be releasing a bombshell report on unnoticed provisions of 245(i) that were voted in by Congress last week.
(This according to Tom Tancredo who last hour was on the George Putnam radio show.)
The 245(i) provisions allow illegals who have been engaged in terrorist activity to meet the criteria for obtaining a green card. (A major embarrassment for the INS.)
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