Posted on 03/19/2002 1:49:07 AM PST by Sabertooth
And nobody claimed that it didn't. That's my whole point. People here tend to read what they want into this whole bill, just like they do CFR, etc. They only see what they want to see. It takes a whole lot of time and effort to actually read the whole bill to find all the small print and digest it. I'm still in the process of doing that. Yet there are people here who are ready to jump on Robert Byrd's back like a bunch of sheeple when he did nothing to stop the last president with getting away with lying under oath, obstructing justice, etc.
It's really kind of funny.
I agree. If these people arent citizens or legal green card holders then they dont qualify for social security or welfare or any of that. They probably would get treated at major hospitals but not paid for by the government. I think some are blowing smoke about all the aid going to illegals.
EBUCK
Where did you get this figure? Specifically? I cannot find your source.
And do you know what he thinks? He thinks the Democrats are a bunch of HYPOCRITES. They say one thing, do another. Ha. And the funniest part is, he is married to a DEMOCRAT. HE is a registered Republican. I am so proud.
He's one of those people whose "paperwork" got messed up. It HAPPENS. ;-)
Oh, please! Have you been paying any attention at all to Bush's position on this issue? The man is VERY pro-immigration. Below are just a few quotes:
"We ought to increase legal immigration for our country's advantage. The high-tech world we are now dominating is dependent on educated folks, but we're short...of workers. It is to our nation's advantage to encourage high-powered, smart people to come into our country." (Iowa Gazette, Jan. 6, 2000)
"I intend to reform the INS to make it more welcoming to immigrants." (National Review Online, June 27, 2000 - Address to League of United Latin American Citizens)
"People [in the INS] ought to be asking 'How can I help you, what can I do to help you fill out paperwork? We ought to be saying loud and clear to people that the INS is to help families and to help people understand the maze of rules and regulations." (Washington Times, June 27, 2000 - Address to Congress of Racial Equality)
"Immigration is not a problem to be solved. It is a sign of a confident and successful nation. And people who seek to make America their home should be met in that spirit by representatives of our government. New arrivals should be greeted not with suspicion and resentment, but with openness and courtesy." (July 10, 2001 - Speech at INS Naturalization Cermony, New York City)
Besides not showing any proof that Bush wants to let everybody come in, did you notice anything about the dates on all your quotes. In case you cant see it, they are prior to 9/11.
Yes because 245(i) let's people caught up in INS ineptness get greencards. An amount of near 200,000 people. It is not a blanket amnesty.
We had 96 months of Clinton ineptness at the INS and it has to be fixed and it seems Byrd doesn't want that to happen.
Also the President wants to secure the borders, but not to the point where we cut off all economic ties with our second biggest trading partner Mexico. Like it or not we share a 2000 mile border with Mexico and they will always be there to deal with. I know you wish that Mexico would just go away, but they are not.
As for the unauthorized 10,000,000 people in this country, the vast majority do menial but yet needed jobs and yes jobs most Americans won't do.
They do help the economy.
Huh? 245(i)is part of section 245. What are you talking about. 245(i) doesnt mean illegals, it means subsection i under section 245. Again proof?
That's a fallacy of False Distinction.Once again...
Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment. Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.You're correct, 245(i) is a subsection of 245. It's the subsection that applies to certain Illegals.
Ignoring proof is not synonymous with proving the contrary.
That, of course, is YOUR interpretation of what you believe Bush says.
He also speaks out AGAINST strengthening control of the borders.
Post it right here, the exact quote.
Byrd just want to make sure that he gets enough "BorderPatrol guard" jobs in West Virginia and that they get their fair share or more of border stations and fence. Why should California and Arizona get more Border Patrol than West Virginia? LOL. He probably wants the revamped INS headquartered in WV.
Then you should be really happy; you'll always have an "ISSUE" to carp about.
You just cannot win with you people.
EBUCK
Also, in my opinion, that so called beaurocratic snaffu regarding the visa paperwork for the two terrorists which belately arrived at the Florida flight school nine months late was deliberate. Notice how the paperwork magically arrived one day after the house vote. Notice how no heads in the INS rolled. After this so called INS screw up, Jorge Bush can say, look, this snaffu underscores the need to reform the INS!! Of course, neither part of Bush's 'new' INS will address deporting any of the illegals including the ones who do not qualify for amnesty under the 245i extension.
And all that shows is a change of effective dates. None of the dire calamities you say is in the bill. Where is the proof?
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