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Stuffed ballot boxes found as Mugabe begins stealing poll
The Irish Independent ^ | March 9, 2002 | Tim Butcher in Bulawayo

Posted on 03/08/2002 9:49:09 PM PST by Devereaux

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Margaret Ndlovu, right, and Roger Cousens, wait in line to cast their votes at a polling station north of Harare
on the first day of the Zimbabwe Presidential election, Saturday March 9, 2002.
(AP PHOTO)

They look determined to vote.

41 posted on 03/09/2002 6:12:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: xm177e2
Mugabe is going to STEAL that election (He may already have stolen it). The opposition has no chance (we will probably be murdered if he does win). Rumor has it the DNC is taking notes.
42 posted on 03/09/2002 6:18:42 AM PST by PetroniDE
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A very important link and excerpt.
Cincinatus' Wife, I want to thank you very much for your fine work on FR.
43 posted on 03/09/2002 7:19:41 AM PST by father_elijah
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To: nopardons
You have a point in that the methods of African indigents are more crude, more barbaric, horrific, etc. But the future of the USA is driven towards clever spinning of the truth, ballot stuffing, murders and fabricated accidents of *key* individuals. The corruption in our system is of epidemic proportions and it has mainly to do with the loss of a biblical moral foundation and the intrusion of government into areas not permitted under strict interpretation of the original intent of the U.S. Constitution.

The post you criticize scores legitimacy because of the observed stuffed ballot boxes spilling out of official vehicles. That is not unlike what we have seen in the last election. I, for one, here in Washington State saw too many elections decided by the mysterious appearance of thousands of ballots for the Dem in the last few hours of the election. It is too improbable to be a mere coincidence. This pattern was repeated in many states as well. When vote reform is proposed, the Dems react with fierce opposition. The truth is self-evident even to a casual observer, elections are being stolen.

44 posted on 03/09/2002 7:23:07 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Devereaux
ok wheres Daly
45 posted on 03/09/2002 7:27:39 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: razorback-bert
The BBC reported this morning

Was that the wee-hour live report that was talking about the 10KM lines at some of the polls?

46 posted on 03/09/2002 8:30:06 AM PST by StriperSniper
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To: Carry_Okie
I have no objection to a rate of immigration that does not outstrip our ability to fund public institutions that manage their assimilation into American culture.

Thank you for your input. You see clearly what is happening here in California, and it's really too bad some of the others on FR don't want to believe it. It will be coming to their state before they realize what's happening, and only then will they take notice.

47 posted on 03/09/2002 9:22:17 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: xm177e2
If Mugabe wins, it should be considered an illegitimate win. Any "normal" nation would throw the creep out and hold new elections in which Mugabe would be ineligable to participate
48 posted on 03/09/2002 9:28:49 AM PST by joeyman
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To: nopardons
The Dems may stuff ballot boxes, lie, bribe voters, vote the dead and illegal aliens, and conive ; however , they have yet to use the military and gangs to torture / intimidate / kill the opposition and GOP voters.

Those last few steps are just down the road we are already on. We just haven't got there yet.

49 posted on 03/09/2002 9:31:49 AM PST by joeyman
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To: PetroniDE
Rumor has it the DNC is taking notes.

Same thing I was thinking. Ya think maybe Hillary and her pals are rooting for Mugabe?

50 posted on 03/09/2002 10:01:28 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Devereaux
I wonder if they'll find any ballot boxes marked "Palm Beach County" stuffed with Al Gore ballots in Zimbabwe?
51 posted on 03/09/2002 10:12:18 AM PST by Jay W
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To: Devereaux
Stuffed ballot boxes.DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR DEMOCRAT IS?
52 posted on 03/09/2002 1:00:53 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Hostage
Look, I've lived in N.Y.C. and Chicago , where the dead have voted for more than a century and stuffed ballot boxes are the rule. What I am saying, is that the USA doesn't have a history of jailing / torturing / MURDERING opposition candidates, and it won't slide into that. We don't have a long record of " necklacing " voters. Ergo, what has happened / is now happening in Zibabwe and South Africa, is NOT going to soon come to America.

Glib replies, do NOT have a place on FR; it only makes this forum look as awful, as our enemies claim it is / we are .

53 posted on 03/09/2002 2:18:37 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Devereaux
Oh, sorry. I thought this thread was about Al Gore.
54 posted on 03/09/2002 3:31:29 PM PST by 1L
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To: joeyman
Don't be ridiculous.
55 posted on 03/09/2002 3:41:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Devereaux
20+ years ago Mugabe was heralded as the "savior of Zimbabwe" by our lying media, in much the same light as Mandela was alleged to have been the savior of South Africa.

Mandela will be dead in 20 years, but his heirs will be picking the bones of the carcass of South Africa in much the same way as Mugabe is doing right now in Zimbabwe.

And this is the kind of future the multi-cultis and the open border crowd have in mind for the USA, and yet no one will do anything about it.

Just stare at it uncomprehendingly like deer caught in the headlights.

56 posted on 03/09/2002 4:17:20 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: nopardons
Look, I've lived in N.Y.C. and Chicago , where the dead have voted for more than a century and stuffed ballot boxes are the rule. What I am saying, is that the USA doesn't have a history of jailing / torturing / MURDERING opposition candidates, and it won't slide into that. We don't have a long record of " necklacing " voters. Ergo, what has happened / is now happening in Zibabwe and South Africa, is NOT going to soon come to America.

Ah, yes, the old delusion of American Exceptionalism. The point is not what has happened in the past, but what may happen in the future, given current trends. America does not have some kind of God-given dispensation from the laws of history or the laws of nature.

If, in 1950, you told someone that by 2000 it was predicted that by 2050 whites would become a minority in the USA, he would have laughed at you; if you told him that this news would be greeted by loud aplause from political and religious leaders and from the media, he would have considered you delusional.

If you told him, also, that there was a strong push for legalizing homosexual marriages and accepting homosexuals in the military, and that pornography was easily avialable everywhere, and that divorce and teenage pregnancy and crime, murder, and rape and everything else was at the levels it was in 2000, he would not believe you.

If you told him that whites were treated as second class citizens when it came to hiring or to university admission, and that whites were judged by a double standard due to "hate crimes" legislation, such that any white was automatically considered guilty if a perpetuator against a non-white, but non-white crimes against whites were often downplayed, ignored, or hushed up ("hush crimes"), he would have considered you a lunatic.

If you told him that the US government kept granting illegal aliens amnesty, and refused to close the border or eject illegals, and did not even properly fund or man the border patrol, and that presidents of both parties were courting favors with Mexico and trying to make it easier for Mexicans to illegally immigrate, he would have been speachless, assuming he had not already called the cops to have you locked away in a pysch ward.

And yet all these things have come to pass. Don't be too quick to dismiss what could happen to the country in the next 50 or 100 years.

57 posted on 03/09/2002 4:32:47 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: nopardons
Well since you're so damned aware of everything, why don't you try sticking to the topic referred to by the title? I don't see a tinfoil hat issue here.
58 posted on 03/09/2002 7:48:05 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
Gee, if anyone is " delusional " around here, it's people who talk about a time, that they either weren't alive during, or have forgotten what it was like. For example, in the 1950's , the pastor of my church , hypothosized that in the future, there probably wouldn't be any race problems, in the USA, due to the fact that most people would be of mixed race. Imagine that . People, in the 1950's were thinking about what you claim was unthinhlable. As for the rest of it ? Fringe groups had been pushing for " free love ", homosexual rights, easier divorces , ect. for centuries.

Talking about history, Dems, in the past, actually DID use intimidation ( they hired Irish thugs , who belonged to such gangs as the Whyos, the Dead Rabbits,the Plug Uglies, etc. ) on voters. They just didn't kill them. We seem to have become a bit more civilized, since the 1840's. Neither are we as close to STONE AGE tribalism, as most Africans are today.

Could that all happen here ? Yes ; never say never . Is it likely to happen anytime soon ? No.

59 posted on 03/09/2002 8:48:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Hostage
I have " stuck to the issue " for years, on all of the Africa Watch threads. You went off it, I replied, and now, NOW you chide me ?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

You want to stick to the issue at hand ? Okay, let's talk about the genisis of the Shona tribe's enmity towards the Matabeles & Ndebles , and how Mugabe's present behavior is not out of character at all.

60 posted on 03/09/2002 8:58:35 PM PST by nopardons
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