A return of 60's Anti-Americanism and Hippies?

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[KantianBurke]

bump!!!

[KantianBurke]

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[Intolerant in NJ]

His analogies are on target......I agree with you completely. People forget that much of the impetus for our becoming involved in Vietnam came from the outrage engendered by reports in this country of the terrorist campaign carried out on the South Vietnamese by the North Vietnamese (nobody was fooled because they called themselves Vietcong) - the bombs placed in Siagon restaurants with second blasts set to go off twenty minutes later just as rescuers gathered, etc., etc. - we actually believed Kennedy's promise to "go anywhere, pay any price.....", and, just to be provocative, IMO Vietnam is among the most "moral" (to the extent that word can be applied to any conflict) wars we ever fought, precisely because there was little immediate self-interest in the sacrifices we made (See Podhoretz's book Why We Were in Vietnam)
The public was squarely behind Vietnam going in. The anti-war types never did succeed in turning the majority of Americans against the war, but they made it difficult enough politically for leaders that they couldn't really fight all out as it should have been fought. It's ironic today to hear some of those who opposed the war accuse Nixon of "betraying Vietnam." These are the same people who practically tore the country apart when Nixon finally went into the NVN sanctuaries in Cambodia as should have been done years earlier, who were outraged when he bombed real military targets in North Vietnam after they had been offlimits for years, who made Nixon walk the tightrope between trying to end the war quickly enough to avoid as many tantrums in the streets of America as he could but with enough time to allow South Vietnam to become as strong and self-reliant as possible. They're not rational types and I'm with you in hoping that their influence during the current crisis remains much less than it was during Vietnam......

[ridensm]

I'll definitely think about it. It would be good to see all you folks again. I keep an occasional eye out and am always impressed with all of you and miss my time up there a lot.

I support the actions we are currently taking but I am concerned over the future course and possible repercussions for the country in a very long term war atmosphere. Personally, I think a war on terrorism would be much more effective if done on a black ops basis. I know this kind of thing is going on but I fear politics have basically emasculated our capacity in this regard. I also think the recent drastic lowering of the bar on the use of nuclear weapons in this conflict is troubling.

With all that said, I know the mindset of the anti-war types who will be at the WH on the 20th and know I would find plenty to disagree with them on and have at least a 50% rational discussion with. Besides, I loved going to the March on the Pentagon they did way back when bill was bombing Kosovo. We had the same purpose in disagreeing with the bombing but entirely different reasons. It was a lot of fun shining some light on their delusions and group-think gobbledygook. This one would be different since I support what we're doing now but I'm sure it would still be fun.

Thanks for the offer and I'll definitely think about it. Tell Kristin and everyone else I said hello.

[tallhappy]

A return of 60's Anti-Americanism and Hippies?

Yes and they are all over this website posting the same old New Left conspiacry theory drivel they hatched in the 60's.

Here they are supposedly conservatives or libertarians.

Some are probably sincere (with a good dose of paranoia in their worldview) some not.

THis website is a repository for anti-American hippy stuff and has a very large active cell.

[GEC]

Thank you for your continuing service.

[Dukie]

Good monday morn, GEC. Thanks for the bump to this absolutely on target essay.

[Dukie]

Norman Mailer, who had been uncharacteristically slow out of the starting gate, soon came up strong on the inside by comparing the Twin Towers to “two huge buck teeth,” and pronouncing the ruins at Ground Zero “more beautiful than the buildings were.”

So in the wake of more than 3000 dead, millions of lives directly affected, tens of billions of dollars in destruction, this jerk starts spouting off his nihilistic nonsense as some sort of highbrow architectural and societal commentary.

And he is one of New York's own, to boot.

[Dukie]

Norman Mailer, who had been uncharacteristically slow out of the starting gate, soon came up strong on the inside by comparing the Twin Towers to “two huge buck teeth,” and pronouncing the ruins at Ground Zero “more beautiful than the buildings were.”

So in the wake of more than 3000 dead, millions of lives directly affected, tens of billions of dollars in destruction, this jerk starts spouting off his nihilistic nonsense as some sort of highbrow architectural and societal commentary.

And he is one of New York's own, to boot.