The Jeb Bush Nobody Knows - Part 11: How Jeb's Newest, 3rd Voucher Program Helps Low-Income Students

FAQS from www.floridachild.org ^ | Feb. 28, 2002 | summer

[summer]

You're welcome. I knew you would appreciate additional information, being the astute think you are.

[summer]

think = thinker

[summer]

And, for anyone reading this who is confused, just for the record: you pinged ME. I did NOT ping you, even though you sound like a cry baby now.

[summer]

Oops. Sorry. My mistake. You pinged mafree. I just made the mistake of trying to help. NEVER MIND! Really. mafree, here.
He pinged you on a post on another thread. I should have never responded with an offer of info! Sometimes I am too nice, and then, I get into a mess like this, with an ungrateful person who can only criticize. MY MISTAKE!!!!

[nanny]

We do pay entirely too much for an education system that doesn't work. I just do not see how vouchers are going to help the system itself. I am not a fan of the public school system, but we, as taxpayers, are paying a tremendous amount of money for something that is not working. We have this huge black hole that is literally bankrupting some and, yes, taking seniors homes, and instead of making it work, we are going to just leave it intact to continue to suck us dry and give big tax breaks and dollars to others. Why don't we just demand these schools begin to work. Do we not know the problems? If I were another country looking at this very wealthy and supposedly educated country and hear everyone say our education system doesn't work, so we are not going to change it, we are going to just start something new, and expensive as well, I would wonder just how intelligent that country could be.

How does giving some more of our money to people to send their children to private schools, help the system. These private schools, by the way, will eventually be under the same mandates as public schools. Anyone who thinks the government is going to allow tax dollars to go to anything and not control it just hasn't been looking for the past 30 years. IT may work really well for some people (who will fit the guidelines) for a short period of time. Then the government or special interest groups pushing the government will decide the private schools are not teaching enough tolerance and then the threats of no more tax dollars will be made to these schools.

Everytime I read anything about the voucher system, I hear it is to help low-income and inner city children. This sort of leaves many of us holding the bag and paying for both the horrible public schools and perhaps, for now, the better private schools, while possibly not being able to avail ourselves of the benefits.<

[summer]

This sort of leaves many of us holding the bag and paying for both the horrible public schools and perhaps, for now, the better private schools, while possibly not being able to avail ourselves of the benefits.

Several others on FR have said this. Thanks for your post.

[Temple Owl]

We do pay entirely too much for an education system that doesn't work. I just do not see how vouchers are going to help the system itself. I am not a fan of the public school system, but we, as taxpayers, are paying a tremendous amount of money for something that is not working. We have this huge black hole that is literally bankrupting some and, yes, taking seniors homes, and instead of making it work, we are going to just leave it intact to continue to suck us dry and give big tax breaks and dollars to others. Why don't we just demand these schools begin to work.

You are so right! We are over-paying for an education system that does not work. The cost ranges from about $8,000 to $15,000 in school districts in my Pennsylvania county. Much of that is due to the building of Taj Mahal type schools and elaborate salaries negotiated by the teachers' union. Too many of our schools have expensive under-used libraries (learning centers) manned by highly paid librarians. Olympic-sized swimming pools, elaborate sports stadiums, and elementary school gym teachers, some of whom are making $180,000 for 190 days work. The public school nurses earn more than do most hospital nurses and they have Christmas off. Giving families moderate ( read about $3,500) vouchers to send kids to private schools would keep them out of public schools. This means fewer high priced teachers and probably no more new buildings.

The reason residents are losing their homes is because of outrageous taxes. Vouchers would mean less kids in public schools. And it is important to note that it would get many deserving children out of a crummy learning environment.

I would support vouchers if for no other reason than because the greedy, deep-pocketed, left- wing, liberal, democrat teachers' union is against them.

[Tribune7]

Vouchers will ultimately save a lot of money in education, while increasing the quality.

But even if it doesn't it will be worth the cost. No longer will have parent see his child inflicted with a horrible teacher -- or classmates -- for 190 days. Vouchers will provide the opportunity to remove the child from a particular hellish setting, even if every other class in every other grade in the school district is performing as it should.

[Temple Owl]

marvelous!

[Temple Owl]

I think it's best if taxpayers get a refund of their tax dollars and decide for themselves how they want to use those funds in educating their children. It can't be simpler than that.

I'll buy that!

[summer]

Thanks! :)

[Temple Owl]

My suggestion is to refund taxpayers in the form of an Educational Tax Credit - ie, a return of your tax dollars which were apportioned for education - and to dismantle the leftist indocrination centers known as public education. Give parents their money back and let them decide.

I believe what you say sounds very good. I am not trying to be argumentative. But right now the entire community pays for the education of America's children. I think you are saying that the government should give tax refunds to everybody--even people who have no children or whose kids are out of school. How do we get the educational tax credit to the families who need it without involving those people?

Home schooling is certainly a wonderful option, but even there, too many parents are not capable of taking on such an important obligation.

One sincere person posted a suggestion that we should fix the public schools. That, unfortunately is not likely to happen. I remember being shocked about a half century ago when it was reported that many of the graduating seniors in Philadelphia's Benjamin Franklin High School could not read or write. Things have not changed, and it not because parents and concerned citizens did not try to solve the problem, because they did.Many seniors at Benjamin Franklin and other Philadelphia high schools are still illiterate. I want all of America's children to be the best educated in the world at the lowest possible cost.

That is the reason I am in favor of vouchers at least on a pilot program.

And once again, remember the left-wing, liberal NEA is also against vouchers. There is a reason for it.

[Temple Owl]

No, the current system is not working, but your previous post certainly has good possibilities. I think your plan would work if you could get our brilliant solons to figure it out. Best of luck.

[summer]

Please forgive my indulgence here, as I am pinging my JEB! list to all 25 threads JUST THIS ONE TIME, on this ONE day so close to the end of Campaign 2002.

I did so in the hope you will simply bump your FAVORITE thread!

I read somewhere that positive news about a candidate at the very last minute will sway an undecided voter to vote for that candidate.

Consequently, this is a one-time, last minute, push -- so please do bump a thread.

Who knows, your bump may be the one that an undecided lurker sees! And, every vote does count.

Thanks for your help here! :)

[kinganamort]

ELECTION BUMP
GO JEB

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