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VIDEO REVEALS THE HIDEOUS SACRIFICE OF CAPTIVE REPORTER
The Independent (London) | February 23, 2002 | Peter Popham

Posted on 02/23/2002 12:14:00 AM PST by Wallaby

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To: aristeides
If he questioned the genocide of Serbs, that would certainly be sufficient, though I should think in Sheik's mind, Pearl's investigating the Reid bombing conspiracy would also be sufficient. Indeed, Pearl's identity as a Jewish Wall Street Journal reporter from America would be sufficient, in the minds of his barbarous murderers, to be anti-Islam. He fits their preconceived role so perfectly as a person that they would want to kill, it suggests that they put a good deal of thought into using him as their Eid sacrifice. On one thread, you even wondered whether the Reid failure was bait. I wouldn't go that far, since I'm sure they would have welcomed another plane falling out of the sky, but it is not hard to see why Pearl would be a target, for motives that are more readily apparent than any outrage over what he wrote about Serbia.
41 posted on 02/23/2002 8:03:22 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: Dog Gone
Reading down the thread, I see you made the point I just made to aristeides.
42 posted on 02/23/2002 8:04:57 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: who knows what evil?
>NOT ONE had heard that he was beheaded.

I am frustrated by the euphemistic coverage also. There is a balance between sensitivity and accuracy, and they aren't walking that line. They are not even suggesting the hideous truth.

43 posted on 02/23/2002 8:08:02 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: seamole
Clearly proving once again how poverty and ignorance are the root causes of terrorism.

Correction:

Clearly proving once again how ISLAM and the ignorance it breeds are the root causes of terrorism.

Just for the record.

And one last thing: ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION OF PEACE.

44 posted on 02/23/2002 8:09:23 AM PST by usconservative
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To: Wallaby
I am curious, however, about a remark you made yesterday about Pearl's head being stoned. Was that something you read, or were you making an inference based on the similarity of the beheading to the ritual slaughter of Eid?

Now that you remind me of it, I think I had misremembered. I think the mention of stoning of a severed head was made in a thread about Pearl, but that the severed head that it was said was stoned was of one of the victims of beheading in Chechnya.

45 posted on 02/23/2002 8:10:21 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Wallaby
Looks to me this is really a war with Islam, all P. C. aside.
46 posted on 02/23/2002 8:12:54 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: aristeides
Your remarks yesterday prompted my looking into the stoning angle. I discovered that the Eid ritual does involve a stoning, though I do not know if it is of the head of the goat alone, or of the decapitated body, or of both. The timing of the release of the video of Pearl's murder suggests a connection to Eid, but if any stoning was filmed, that would provide some reason to suspect Pearl was not killed several weeks ago, but in the last few days. I haven't read even a hint of their stoning him after beheading him, and it is still my hunch that Sheik was telling the truth a few weeks back when he said Pearl was already dead.
47 posted on 02/23/2002 8:25:09 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby; The Green Hornet
The Green Hornet has reported that somebody who claims to have seen the video said on the Bob Grant Show that the terrorists slapped Pearl's severed head. Is that part of the Eid ritual?
48 posted on 02/23/2002 8:30:14 AM PST by aristeides
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To: 1 FELLOW FREEPER
All together now: Death to Jemaah Islamiyah! Death to Harkat-ul-Mujahideen! Death to Jaish- e -Mohammed! Death to al Qa'ida! All should join in the cursing of Islamo-fascism.
49 posted on 02/23/2002 8:33:50 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby
BUMP BUMP BUMPETY BUMPETY BUMP BUMP!!!!!!
50 posted on 02/23/2002 8:38:40 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: aristeides
Here's what l could find about the Eid ritual. I'll see if I can find more:


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Muslims celebrate feast of sacrifice at Islamic pilgrimage
By BASSEM MROUE, Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
March 16, 2000, Thursday, AM cycle

MINA, Saudi Arabia
Pilgrims celebrated one of the Muslim world's most important feasts Thursday, sacrificing camels and cattle and symbolically stoning the devil as their holy journey wound down.


Muslim tradition says it was here that the devil tried to tempt the Prophet Abraham to disobey God by refusing to sacrifice his son.
Pilgrims were expected to slaughter more than a half-million camels, cows and sheep by Sunday near this tent city that only comes to life during the annual Muslim pilgrimage, or hajj.

The hajj peaked Wednesday with prayers on Mount Arafat, a hill outside the holy city of Mecca where the Prophet Mohammed delivered his last sermon in 632 A.D. On Thursday, pilgrims in white cast seven pebbles the size of marbles at three pillars that symbolize the devil: "In the name of God, God is great," they repeated.

The pillars are at the center of giant ramps built to accommodate the huge crowds of pilgrims who must complete the ritual by dusk. Muslim tradition says it was here that the devil tried to tempt the Prophet Abraham to disobey God by refusing to sacrifice his son. "Hajj is very much fascinating. I have witnessed places I had read about for long years," said Mukwana Mohammed, 53, of Uganda. "I also saw the biggest gathering on Earth on Mount Arafat."

Muslims around the world on Thursday celebrated Eid al-Adha, or the feast of sacrifice, by slaughtering animals and sharing a part of the meat with friends and giving the rest to the poor.

Palestinian leaders welcomed the Muslim feast with prayers that peace talks will give them a capital in Jerusalem, the third holiest city to Islam. In Indonesia, the world's most populous Islamic nation, blood ran in the gutters in front of mosques as the faithful slit the throats of cows, goats and lambs while chanting prayers.

Hard times toned down celebrations in Iraq, where sanctions imposed after its 1990 invasion of Kuwait have pushed the middle class into poverty and widened the gap between rich and poor. "We have no Eid. For us we see it only in the calendar," said Atheer Ahmad, a government civil servant.

For pilgrims in Saudi Arabia this year, most of the animals will be sacrificed at a new $125 million slaughterhouse in Mecca.

Pilgrims can go to slaughterhouses to buy and slaughter animals themselves or they can pay a bank or company to do it on their clients behalf. Meat is sent to the needy in 27 countries.

Pilgrims arrived Thursday at Mina from Muzdalifah, where they had collected pebbles for the stoning ceremony. Wide streets along three-mile route were a sea of white. Many pilgrims walked; others crowded inside and on top of cars, buses and trucks.

Vendors filled the streets selling food, prayer rugs and umbrellas to stave off the sun on a 100 degree day. Helicopters hovered overhead and ambulances and police cars patrolled the streets to ensure calm. So far this year, the hajj has been free from large-scale disasters. Six Palestinian and Jordanian pilgrims were crushed to death last week inside Mecca's Grand Mosque. This week, two women from the Russian republic of Dagestan were killed in a bus accident; a Kuwaiti boy and his parents died in a car accident.

Hajj - one of the most sacred duties of the Muslim faith - is required at least once of every able-bodied Muslim who can afford it.

This year, 2.1 million people are taking part in the hajj, one of the five pillars of Islam. There are more than 1 billion Muslims throughout the world.

Pilgrims will also circle the Kaaba, a cubic stone structure in Mecca, to which Muslims around the world turn for prayer.

After completing the rituals, pilgrims clip some of their hair. Some Muslims shave their head, imitating Mohammed, who shaved his head after his pilgrimage.


51 posted on 02/23/2002 8:43:26 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: The Green Hornet
I think that is an urban legend.
52 posted on 02/23/2002 8:50:04 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: aristeides;The Green Hornet; a history buff
I gather from below that three pillars are stoned in the ritual, not the carcasses of the slaughtered sheep, goat and cows. Perhaps those not on a hajj feel the need to improvise?


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Over a billion Moslems celebrate as the Feast of Sacrifice begins
Deutsche Presse-Agentur
Deutsche Presse-Agentur
March 16, 2000, Thursday, BC Cycle 10:11 Central European Time

Mecca/Cairo
More than a billion Moslems worldwide began the three-day Feast of Sacrifice - Aid al Adha - Thursday as the hajj pilgrimage drew to a close in the Saudi Arabian holy city of Mecca.


Each of the vast throng moving from Wednesday's solemn pilgrimage at Mount Arafat to the nearby town of Mena is required to throw seven pebbles at three pillars, symbolising Abraham's rejection of Satan's attempted interference with God's instructions to sacrifice Ismail.
There, over two million Moslems - nearly half of them having made the pilgrimage from over 100 countries - were performing the final rituals of symbolically stoning the Devil.

Each of the vast throng moving from Wednesday's solemn pilgrimage at Mount Arafat to the nearby town of Mena is required to throw seven pebbles at three pillars, symbolising Abraham's rejection of Satan's attempted interference with God's instructions to sacrifice Ismail. In the ensuing feasting, some 400,000 sheep plus thousands more cattle and camels were being slaughtered - most of the meat being flown out by Saudi Arabia to poorer countries to enable Moslems there to be indirectly involved in the pilgrimage.

After the feasting, the pilgrims were to end the hajj by shaving and cutting their hair, then once more - as at Tuesday's start of the ritual - walking seven times round the Kaaba, the cubed structure believed built by Abraham, and to which Moslems direct their prayers.

The pilgrims, clad in the ihram - two unstitched and seamless pieces of white cloth symbolising a funeral shroud - had observed the hajj climax Wednesday at Mount Arafat.

Their station at Arafat has been interpreted symbolically as a foretaste of the Day of Judgement at the site where the prophet of Islam, Mohammad, gave his last sermon 14 centuries ago.

This year's hajj - with a record number of pilgrims - has been seen as one of the most secure and peaceful ever amid stepped-up safety measures.

Saudi authorities have spent huge sums in efforts to prevent tragedies like those in 1994 and 1998 when 270 and 180 people respectively died in stampedes.

Authorities installed in Mena more than 40,000 fire-proof tents with air-conditioning, and banned gas cylinders which were blamed for the 1997 blaze that killed 343 people. Some 10,000 doctors have been working around the clock to attend sick pilgrims.

The slaughter of the animals was taking place this year in the world's biggest slaughterhouse. The 500,000 square-metre complex near Mena was inaugurated this year at a cost of 125 million dollars.

Animal welfare activists argue that animals are subjected to needless cruelty, taking minutes to die when they have their throats cut and are left to bleed to death, as required by Islamic ritual.

Elsewhere in the Moslem world, the Eid al Adha festival was also in full swing, with around a million sheep, cattle and goats being slaughtered in Cairo alone.

From sunrise - at sites varying from street corners to underground garages to balconies to stairwells in apartment blocks - the slaughter was going ahead, with children joining their elders in stepping through the blood in expectation of good fortune.

In another custom believed to bring good luck, people leave bloody hand prints on house walls and the windows of business premises to protect them from the "evil eye" of others' envy.

The hajj is one of the five pillars of Islam which should be performed by every able Moslem at least once in a lifetime.


53 posted on 02/23/2002 8:54:11 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: *TerrorWar
bump
54 posted on 02/23/2002 9:23:28 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: Wallaby
When is an American media outlet going to use the word "Beheaded?"
56 posted on 02/23/2002 10:07:03 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
I have a feeling they're under orders not to use the word. I wish I knew where such orders come from and how they are communicated.
57 posted on 02/23/2002 10:11:35 AM PST by aristeides
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To: dougherty
I wonder if this Pakistani journalist made a copy of this tape?

The terrrorists most likely made copies and most likely will drop it into the web.

58 posted on 02/23/2002 10:13:37 AM PST by aculeus
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To: seamole
He should be arrested and extradited.

Not just him. Pakistani Intelligence Agency ISI hand in Pearl killing?.

59 posted on 02/23/2002 10:14:00 AM PST by aristeides
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To: aculeus
Aren't they going to want to sell copies of that tape at mosques? Or maybe show them at their recruiting gatherings?
60 posted on 02/23/2002 10:17:31 AM PST by aristeides
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