State Immigrant I.D. Llicense for Disaster, Foes Say [Tennessee License Scandal - Business as Usual]

GoMemphis.com (The Memphis Commercial Appeal) ^ | February 20, 2002 | Tom Bailey Jr.

[Dawgsquat]

Horse Hockey!

Ya know, if the f'ing feds were doing their job this wouldn't be a problem.

[Tauzero]

"About as smart as saying that rape isn't about sex."

It is, but not about sexual gratification.

Sorry, off-topic.

[rebdov]

I think the rest of us should file a class action suit against the State of Tenn. for aiding and abetting.

[Travis McGee]

bttt

[JDGreen123]

Phil Valentine will be on the Bill O'Reily show tonight 7 PM CST/8 PM EST to discuss this whole license fiasco and the incident in Memphis.

[Shermy]

According to another thread:

"A conservative radio talk show host in Nashville by the name of Phil Valentine was the first to break this story. He will be appearing on "The O'Rielly Factor" tonight, Feb 20th."

[Tauzero]

Though immigration should be curtailed, the DMV gets no sympathy from me, and I certainly don't want more hassle at the DMV just because the damn fedgov isn't doing its job. I'm sick of showing my papers, paying for this sticker, that card, etc.

The only reason for all the rules and fees surrounding car ownership is that cars are virtually indispensible -- the state's got us by the balls.

[Shermy]

You beat me on internet speed! Kudos.

Here's my Tennessee License Scandal template. Freepmail me any additions and suggestions for my index. I think I lost previous suggestions :( Still good for Fox researcher lurkers. :)

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Feb. 7

Six Charged in Tenn. License Plot [Courtesy of the Tennessee DemocRAT Party]

Feb. 8 (for comedic relief)

Dri ver license fraud case here is a rare incident, state says

Feb. 11

WOMAN ARRESTED FOR AIDING ARABS IN DRIVER'S LICENSE SCAM PRESUMED DEAD

Tennessee finds a cost to easing driver's license rules Some other states, airlines no longer accept (Boston Globe)

Feb. 12

Feds fear license examiner is dead - Memphis Woman's co-defendants tied to 9/11, judge told

Feb. 13:

Body in car identified as license examiner - Update on Memphis, Tennesse License Examiner

Feb. 14

TENN DRIVER LICENSE SCANDAL: FLAMING DEATH NO ACCIDENT, FBI SAYS

TENN DRIVER LICENSE SCANDAL: FLAMING DEATH NO ACCIDENT, FBI SAYS (II)

Flaming death no accident, FBI says - Gasoline found on clothes of license examiner

Feb. 15

New York Times (with Pics of car) F.B.I. Says Arson Killed Woman Accused in License Scheme

Sm ith led low-impact life until arrest, fiery end (Not a thread)

Images of the burned car owned by Katherine Smith * alternate title: How Arabs Kill Witnesses

FBI Agent: Arson Killed Key Suspect (driver's license examiner accused of supplying terrorists)

Feb.16

License suspect had WTC repair pass, but Port Authority did its own work [Tennessee License Scandal]

TE NN DRIVER LICENSE SCANDAL: FLAMING DEATH NO ACCIDENT, FBI SAYS

Feb. 18:

Mourners remember the good deeds of license examiner, not how she died

Feb. 20

Terror in Tennessee? (Front Page magazine)

*TN License Scandals

Pics of License Scam suspects

Color Pics of Suspects

[spodefly]

You point to the petition online at:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?immiGBA -- which currently has under 1000 signatures.

There is also a petition on line at the same sight that is to grant amnesty to illegal aliens, or as they refer to them 'undocumented immigrants' -- http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?i1pacman -- it has over 2500 signatures.

[Inge_CAV]

BTTT!

[Shermy]

Ty ty.

Humor break: Today's WMC-TV has a small story-License fraud defendant not guilty, says attorney

"An attorney for one of the men charged in the driver's license fraud case says his client is not guilty.

Khaled Odtllah claims he was just helping the defendants get to the front of the line. His attorney, Anthony Helm, says Odtllah did not get any money as prosecutors allege, and he did not fill out any of the license applications because he does not read or write English.

Odtllah does admit he brought the applications inside the driver's testing center on Summer Avenue and handed them to examiner Katherine Smith. Helm also says he and his client found out in the hearing that Smith had died in a mysterious car fire the day before. Odtllah also denies he drove to Memphis from New York on September 11th. He says it was several days before and had been visiting his family in New York.

Odtllah also denies having any connection to terrorism."

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Sounds like the attorney has a tough job on this one!

[Inge_CAV]

I am amazed these people are still running loose in our country.

Guess it is too PC to look for ME terrorists types. Unfavorable press coverage don't you know.

[JDGreen123]

Making it easier for immigrants to get licenses not only helps individuals, Colson said, it boosts the state's construction and farming industries.

Phil Valentine pointed out that this is the key sentence. The Construction/Road Building and Agriculture interests are the strongest lobbies in Tennessee. They want to keep the cost of labor low. They have financed enough politicians to get their way. Throw in the hotel industry, like Gaylord, that actually flies in workers from Latin countries to lower costs and we have little means of opposing this cabal.

Several states are now refusing to recognize a Tennessee driver's license as means of identity proof and rightly so. All Tennesseans will suffer from this aspect. I wish someone would send Tennessee some real conservatives. We only have a choice between Dems and RINOs. Howard Baker and Lamar Alexander set the trend and it rolls on. To the bulk of the Tennessee Republican Party, the only thing that matters is MONEY. If something increases profits then it's good no matter what else may come by enacting the legislation.

The Feds do deserve some blame. Until recently, Tennessee had one INS office in Memphis to serve the entire state! There have been horror stories of local police arresting illegals only to be told by the INS that they have no time or room to pickup and care for the illegals. The police have thus stopped wasting their time by trying to do anything about the situation.

[scholar]

put a large group of people out on the road that do not have a license, do not have insurance and do not understand the rules of the road."

My question exactly. Don't know how many Illionoisans we have on this thread, but Illinois has had a major scandal re turning people loose to drive semi's whose licenses were paid for and who could not read or speak English. We natural born citizens could never get away with this crap.

[freepy smurf]

"Do you want your children crossing the street when they could be at risk from a driver who doesn't know the rules of the road?"

Does giving them licenses suddenly make them safer? They broke laws just to get here, how much respect for our other laws do you expect them to have? How would they drive when they are desparate to get away from an IMS vehicle that is following them? Do you want your children crossing the street then?

[sarcasm]

Kansas too:

Licenses for undocumented aliens steer legislators both ways
Driving: INS official says passage of bill would make deportation more difficult; proponents say it would give sense of identity

[scholar]

deny immigrants a driver's license, Colson said, "and what you are going to do is put a large group of people out on the road that do not have a license, do not have insurance and do not understand the rules of the road."

We already have thousands of those people on the road--legals and illegals, but the government can never seem to do anything about them. But those of us who obey the laws, have insurance, etc. will get shafted for the slightest infraction.

[WRhine]

Making it easier for immigrants to get licenses not only helps individuals, Colson said, it boosts the state's construction and farming industries. "They have a dramatic need for labor," he said. "These people coming here, they provide that." [no, they provide cheap labor, suppressing the wages of Americans. Disgusting. This guy could write for the Wall Street Journal!]

Disgusting is Right. Of what concern is it to a highway commissioner to speak out about the illegal labor needs of certain TN industries? Where is that in Colson's job description? This is a clear conflict of interest and a good indiction that some of these TN bureaucrats are on the take with businesses that peddle in the illegal job market.

Most distrubing is that these hucksters don't care a wit that this perversity makes it possible for terrorists to obtain IDs without background checks much less how it hurts local citizens working for work.

Welcome to today’s America. Anything can be bought in the political arena at the right price.

[JDGreen123]

These three ladies are the only legislators watching out for us. They have led the fight against the state income tax as well as the fight against the licenses for illegals. They have caught heck from the Dems and their own party of RINOs. They have been called racist, reactionaries, and naysayers. Any of them would make a great Governor:

Senator Marsha Blackburn Marsha Blackburn Profile

Representative Donna Rowland: Donna Rowland Profile

Representative Mae Beavers: Mae Beavers Profile

They are Tennessee's version of "Charlie's Angels."

[Joe Hadenuf]

This immigration nightmare is

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