Posted on 02/17/2002 1:31:49 PM PST by Madiuq
India is only one country, with no ideological allies in the region. Everyone over there is either Islamic (there are 25 Islamic nations backing Pakistan) or Communist (China, North Korea, etc).
India is by itself. It needs the United States as an ally.
So now who has a "cowboy" mentality? Do you really think India could attack Pakistan when the US has built a permanent base there? Or are you just spewing for the sake of hearing yourself talk?
The US building of permanent bases is tantamount to an insurance policy to protect Pakistan from India. What assurance is the US giving to India, that the bloody terrorism and proxy wars in Kashmir and all around India by Pakistan will cease?
That's not respect, that's servility.
Plus the now permanent US bases in Pakistan will prevent India from taking Pakistan out should the terrorism continue.
Yes, it will. So you're saying we should therefore give security guarantees to India? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Perhaps India should seek out other allies. Or be prepared to go it alone. Bottom line, if India is not prepared to do whatevers necessary to protect its survival, then there's no reason to expect anyone to respect them.
It needs the United States as an ally.
Pleading does not become a sovereign nation that seeks to be seen as a regional superpower. When India stops demeaning itself, maybe then the world will stop demeaning her.
Do you really think India could attack Pakistan when the US has built a permanent base there?
If you assume India can not, then you're pre-emptively accepting defeat. Once India shows that it is willing to take on Pakistan regardless of an American presence, you may see a change in the environment. But as things stand right now, our boys are in Pakistan, and India is openly unwilling to do anything to Pakistan while they're there. This gives Musharraf a blank check to do pretty much anything he wants. Change the assumptions, and the game changes.
India will never attack U.S. interests. Are you encouraging war between India and the United States?
(1) are constitutional republics;
(2) are thriving democracies;
(3) speak English as their lingua franca in both commerce and legal systems;
(4) have a three-pronged governmental make-up (executive, judicial, and legislative);
(5) are technologically progressive and sound;
(6) are threatened by Chinese Communism;
(7) are threatened by Islamic Fundamentalism;
(8) are capitalist;
(9) threw off British colonial rule;
(10) are secular;
(11) are multi-religious;
(12) are multi-ethnic;
(13) are pluralistic;
(14) have thriving entertainment industries (see, Hollywood and Bollywood);
(15) enjoy freedom of speech and expression (see, the thousands of Indian newspapers, each with their own opinions and agendas); and
(16) have bickering partisan politics in their respective Congressional and Senatorial bodies.
And you are going to tell me it is in America and Israel's best interest to foment disputes between these two great nations?
Pakistan is a blood leech on our collective financial resources, as well as on our diplomatic reserves.
It seems that everytime India stops "whining," some high level government official starts hemming and hawing about how Pakistan and the United States are the "best of friends," and "strategic allies."
All of that spells gloom, doom, more terrorism, more death, and more instability for India.
I really don't blame India at all.
Mushrraf was heaped praise but got little else, whereas we're giving India sophisticated defense technology and weapons systems.
Personally, I think Pakistan doesn't deserve the huge aid in addition to "payments" to clean up it's own house. It wouldn't be so bankrupt if it hadn't spent its handouts on the Islamic bomb and propping up the Taliban. You're right, if Musharraf hadn't down a U with Taliban and Al Qaida, we'd probably be selectively bombing Pakistan!
Because it is an indispensable "ally" right now, it is getting the handout. Besides, Powell's got a general-to-general thing going on with Musharraf. In time, it will be dispensable. They know it, we know it.
It seems to me that Pakistan was two inches away from getting blown off the map, just like their brothers in the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and by the graces of the United States, they were spared a horribly and fiery death.You're Hindu, aren't you? You sound the part. Fine with me, if you are..
The list of Pakistani atrocities is limitless.
As far as I am concerned, all bets are off with Pakistan when they decided to engage in genocide against innocent people, and with their jihad against civilization.
Your personal attacks on me are futile and hollow coming from the likes of you. You are an Islamic traitor, and puppet of the U.S., are you not? You sound the part. Turks have no moral authority to speak of, as they are hated (or laughed at) by every nation because of their "cave in" mentality and cruel and unusual history. At least India has the bollocks to stick to its convictions, and not become an opportunistic, untrustworthy a-hole of a country like yours, that will prostitute itself out to the highest bidder.
I am also for peace in the region. But there can be no peace as long as Pakistanis continue to murder and terrorize innocent Indian citizens.
India has always stood for peace. They gave Pakistan their country, carved painfully out of India, hoping they would be satisfied and go away. It did not help. Next the Indians gave them the ideology of Gandhi, a pacifist. It did not work.
Eventually a nation runs out of cheeks to turn.
The fact that you are anti-Musharrif makes it far more reasonable that you sympathize with the terrorists.
Musharrif has shown a tremendous amount of courage in this matter, he's put his very life on the line in order to drag his country out of poverty and ignorance.
There are plenty of Indians and Indian-Americans (Probably almost a billion people) that agree with me, and not you.
What, are they all wrong? You are one arrogant SOB to do that.
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