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Ex-Professor Sentenced to 20 years
Hartford Courant ^ | February 16, 2002 | Janice D'Arcy

Posted on 02/16/2002 3:08:38 PM PST by T'wit

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: cajungirl
There is a significant difference - none of his research has anything to do with his crimes. The point of publishing in journal is to share with the scientific community new findings - not ego-stroking. As long as the findings are useful and not unethically obtained they should be evaluated on their own value not the moral standing of the researcher - otherwise things will get way out of hand very quickly.

At the same time his colleagues are unbelievable in defending this scumbag. I have no problem with him being productive - just let him be productive from behind prison walls.

61 posted on 02/16/2002 10:18:58 PM PST by garbanzo
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To: T'wit
in his prime...........so give him a job in the prison library and let's move on
62 posted on 02/16/2002 10:23:06 PM PST by breakem
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To: rebdov
> Perhaps I still should do it.

Not until you're clear of the place! You can jeer them all you wish when you are safely out of their reach. Just reflect on these matters, as you are, and absorb lessons your teachers never intended.

My lesson would be, those who deny G-d end up worshiping whatever they put in His place -- Science, Natural Selection, The Party, sex, drugs, power, canasta. Clearly, we are G-d driven, and surely this was what He intended. No substitute G-d can claim to be good or put a moral dimension into the universe. Therefore, substitutes can neither explain the moral hunger we find within ourselves nor urge us to good behavior. In the end, they explain nothing.

63 posted on 02/16/2002 10:24:40 PM PST by T'wit
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To: Dimensio
> I'm not sure that most liberals would approve of molesting a 7-year old boy.

None of them would. None could honestly disapprove either. The thing is, liberals have no fixed standards on which to base approval or disapproval of anything. They judge issues by their feelings. In my experience, the more a thing is pathological, bizarre, hateful to America, socially destructive and/or tax-paid, the more liberals feel good about it.

64 posted on 02/16/2002 10:39:33 PM PST by T'wit
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To: T'wit
None of them would. None could honestly disapprove either. The thing is, liberals have no fixed standards on which to base approval or disapproval of anything. They judge issues by their feelings. In my experience, the more a thing is pathological, bizarre, hateful to America, socially destructive and/or tax-paid, the more liberals feel good about it.

You're over-generalizing. Even if most liberals judge things "by their feelings", as you assert, most of them would still likely feel disgusted at the thought of child molestation.

I've met a few liberals. I've never met one who approves of adult-child sex.
65 posted on 02/16/2002 11:06:17 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: T'wit
Nothing is new under the sun. As a young man (teenager) existentialism and existential writers were my teachers. I remember reading then, what I just found on the web, about Jean Genet, a real reprobate, a thief, pornographer, 'miserable' prostitute, and a repeat offender. But the world of art and philosophy petioned the court for his freedom so that he would not be hampered in sharing his genius with the world.

In 1948 Genet was convicted of burglary for the 10th time and condemned to automatic life imprisonment. However, by 1947 his works had gained attention from such writers as Jean-Paul Sartre, André Gide and Jean Cocteau.

After the sentence, they petitioned the President of the Republic for his release. The request was granted, and he thanked by giving the society a poetical interpretation of the values of the criminals, in which a prison cell can turn into a place of monastic meditations or scene of sexual fantasies.

Didn't soceity luck out!

BTW I refuse to call the gay,and my preferred usage is'miserable'. More to the point I think.

66 posted on 02/17/2002 3:52:58 AM PST by rebdov
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To: Dimensio
I was typing in reference to the quote from the prosecutor which said he never heard people "deliver comments so disconnected with reality". That was the similarity to communists I saw with these professors, delivering comments disconnected with reality. I never said communists tolerated child molesters. Read clearly.

Besides, if you don't think there are any other similarities between the pointy-headed, liberal, intelligentsia of this country and communists then I don't believe you listen or think very clearly either.

67 posted on 02/17/2002 4:46:04 AM PST by ridensm
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To: Dimensio
> You're over-generalizing

Just generalizing. How else talk about a bad breed? I'm perfectly willing to concede that liberals, as individuals, can be nice folks and can even rise above their beliefs -- if they have any left. But when they are being liberals, -- when they act upon their liberal views, -- they are pack hunters and more destructive to America than any foreign enemy. The damage they have done in my own lifetime has been unbelievable; but better we reserve that subject for a new thread.

Suffice, for now, that our pederast's friends at Yale are moral illiterates. Instead of doing their duty to transmit the highest values of our culture to the younger generation, they are teaching depravity.

68 posted on 02/17/2002 7:51:36 AM PST by T'wit
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To: Dimensio
> I've never met one who approves of adult-child sex.

Please note: I did say that none of them would -- but only because liberal views offer no basis for principled approval or disapproval. There is a vocal pedophilia lobby (NAMBLA, for example) that is active wherever pederasts can prey on boys -- especially the teaching business. In turn, this lobby has the vociferous approval of the whole liberal-left, on the pretense of civil rights. That, of course, is what the war on the Boy Scouts is all about -- trying to force them to accept gay counselors or else lose their funding.

69 posted on 02/17/2002 8:07:58 AM PST by T'wit
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To: concerned about politics
Don't you love the Schools of Lower Living. Let's guess when Yale will hand this bum out an award of excellency.
70 posted on 02/17/2002 8:18:17 AM PST by Dengar01
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To: ridensm
> similarities between the pointy-headed, liberal, intelligentsia of this country and communists

A wonderfully interesting question! Are liberals communists, or merely fellow travelers, too weak in the knees to make the commitment? The Left had a bitter debate about it in the late 1940s: Stalinists versus those who thought an anti-communist left was a viable position.

I'd like to suggest that Sen. Joseph McCarthy unwittingly came to their rescue. He couldn't see any more difference between liberals and Stalinists than the Left itself could. That is why they turned on him with such ferocity -- he poured vinegar on the festering wounds from their own internal debate. But here, at least, was something they could all agree on -- hate McCarthy! In the end, they drove him to his death and are still citing their "McCarthyism" myth to rub it in.

71 posted on 02/17/2002 8:34:01 AM PST by T'wit
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To: T'wit

"...Strollo, a seasoned prosecutor, was incredulous after the hearing. "In all my years as a prosecutor, I have never heard people deliver comments so disconnected with reality..."




IVORY TOWER = DEMOCRAT


72 posted on 02/17/2002 8:38:48 AM PST by vannrox
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To: rebdov
> But the world of art and philosophy petioned the court for his freedom so that he would not be hampered in sharing his genius with the world.

You are absolutely right -- the same thing is playing out again in New Haven. Surely the element in common is that the intellectual supporters of Genet/Lasaga do not believe in right and wrong. They are unbelievers and relativists who have no rational basis to say, "This is wrong. This we must not do. This G-d forbids us to do."

The modernist family of philosophies -- scientism, naturalism, positivism, etc. -- all teach that the world and life are accidental. Liberal professors teach ceaselessly that there is no right and wrong. That always reminds me that the inability to distinguish between right and wrong is a legal definition of criminal insanity.

73 posted on 02/17/2002 9:01:08 AM PST by T'wit
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To: T'wit
In turn, this lobby has the vociferous approval of the whole liberal-left, on the pretense of civil rights.

I don't know what alternate universe you live in where NAMBLA has large-scale "approval" of any sort for their goals.

That, of course, is what the war on the Boy Scouts is all about -- trying to force them to accept gay counselors or else lose their funding.

Well part of the issue is also about Scouts themselves who are homosexual, but that's a completely different discussion.
74 posted on 02/17/2002 11:15:53 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: T'wit
Ex-Professor Sentenced To 20 Years

When I was in graduate school, the PhD. advisor of one of our faculty members
got put away for taking only slightly-less repulsive liberties with underage boys.

Yep, even tenured professors in a Big Ten school can go to jail for a long, long time.
75 posted on 02/17/2002 11:23:36 AM PST by VOA
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To: Dimensio
> I don't know what alternate universe you live in

Personal remarks are not permitted in this forum.

76 posted on 02/17/2002 12:03:35 PM PST by T'wit
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To: ArneFufkin
geology professor

"Breaking rocks in the hot sun,
I fought the law, and the law won...

77 posted on 02/17/2002 12:07:56 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: T'wit
‘Strollo, a seasoned prosecutor, was incredulous after the hearing. "In all my years as a prosecutor, I have never heard people deliver comments so disconnected with reality."’

The prosecutor touches on the fundamental problem facing the Western world with his comments. Reality isn't real anymore. Get ready for much more of the same, Mr. Strollo. Much, much more.

78 posted on 02/17/2002 12:10:17 PM PST by Mortimer Snavely
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To: T'wit
and to think, he'll be in protective custody for those twenty, ummm make that TEN, years he'll serve!
79 posted on 02/17/2002 12:17:25 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: murdoog
He didn't get off light. When the prof enters the prison, he's going to be introduced to some new friends that will do to him what he did to the little boy. Poetic justice.
80 posted on 02/17/2002 12:22:58 PM PST by irish_lad
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