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Canadian Figure Skaters Get Gold, Russians Furious
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| 2/15/02
| Adrian Warner
Posted on 02/15/2002 11:42:28 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: CedarDave
At the end of the short program, when the music ended, they made a move where Sale sits on Peltiers knee. I guess he wasn't paying attention because the next thing they knew, Sale was on the ice. It was even during the program. And the only criticism I have of the Canadians is that I feel they didn't quite take the short program seriously enough. They skated well, but the Russians were brilliant in the short program.
To: Snuffington
Of course the Russians are furious. Regardless of the spin they try to put on it, this action will be seen by the rest of the world as an admission by the Olympic Comittee that the Russians didn't earn their gold.I agree. I don't like this at all. I think it would have been better for Sale and Pelletier to be the Gold Medalists of Public Opinion than to subsequently issue duplicate Golds.
It's not like the Russians cheated, as did the East German women's swim team was proved to have done in Montreal.
To: The_Victor
The Russians are just mad because the mean little Canadians exposed their little scam.
To: Utah Girl
My theory on this is that while the Russian female skater's skirt fluttered demurely about her hips, Sele seemed to have a significant hinder-binder going on. Clearly this took away from artistic impression scores (but did not seem to effect her technique).
To: Randjuke
I was kinda thinking along the same lines last night. The third Russian male skater came out in a fluttery shirt, I wonder if the ruffly stuff makes them look more graceful. I remember Ilia Kulik winning the 1998 gold medal for the men, and he had a white ruffled shirt on. And I mean there were major ruffles.
To: buickmackane
David Pelletier has a mischievous sense of humor Yes he does! His remarks during the press conference were very funny....quite an accomplishment coming from someone who just 4 days later was screwed out of a gold medal by a corrupt judge(s).
I especially liked his remark about "...maybe getting the bronze as well and then we'll have all 3"....very funny!
I imagine David will be invited by David Letterman and Jay Leno very soon....he not only has Olympic talent, he has a personality.
Not to take anything away from Jamie Sale, but she was a bit more timid during the press conference....but she also has exhibited maturity and class during this whole ordeal.
I always take pot shots at "Socialist Canadians" on this forum, but it is all in jest. In all honesty, I have never met a Canuck I didn't like.
To: mickie
What a presendence this sets for others who don't win as big as they think they should!The French judge ADMITTED that the French Skaing organization put pressure on her to vote for the Russians.
Do you think the French Skating assocaition just did that for the hell of it?
The judge cheated. IMO, the Russians should have had their medal taken away.
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02/15/2002 4:21:44 PM PST
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Howlin
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To: Serge
Hey, you Russkies need all the help you can get but when you get caught cheating.....like when your heroes were stripped of their European title after Berezhnaya tested positive for a banned substance. Remember that little charade?
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02/15/2002 4:42:37 PM PST
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Lent
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To: ET(end tyranny)
I thought the Rusian skating team was stripped of the gold and the Candians received it. I also heard the judges involved were under investigation.
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02/15/2002 4:56:11 PM PST
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ZULU
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To: Serge
LOL! You didn't know your hero couple was stripped of their European title because your Russkie girl tested positive for a banned substance?LOL!
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02/15/2002 5:02:34 PM PST
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Lent
To: The_Victor
This Russian couple is being a bit melodramatic saying they cannot enjoy their life now with the way things are. He keeps saying it is very bad for them.
To: ET(end tyranny)
Check out: http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pri&dt=020215&cat=news&st=newsolympicsfigureskatingdc.html
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02/15/2002 7:09:56 PM PST
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ZULU
To: The_Victor
Some points
1. I wonder if the American press would be making as much fuss about this if the positions of the Russians and Canadians were reversed. I doubt it.
2. Did you ever notice what appears to be "block" voting on the part of what could be loosly described as "west-allied" countries? (hard to believe were still locked into this dichotomy). The U.S., Germans, Japanese and some other like-positioned country all voted for the Canadians. This breakdown seems to occur a lot, if you stop to look.
3. I wonder if Americans would be as sympathetic toward the Canadians in this issue, "outraged" in fact, if they truly knew the amount of contempt the average Canadian has for America, and Americans generally.
To: Serge
Later they may replay it. Serge, pal, I guarentee you they won't be changing the medal colors again now -- pressure or no pressure.
They did what they did because they had evidence. If they hadn't, they wouldn't have rushed to get this done *instead* of letting it go to the sports arbitration court. No one confident of winning fears an arbitrator.
To: Colonel_Flagg
The judged "sports" like snowboarding, hot dog skiing and now figure skating really don't do anything for me in the first place. I for one wouldn't miss them if they were goneAnd my point was, to some extent, all sports are "judged." Even a race has an official to rule on bumps, faulty starts, etc. Human judgement is and always has been a part of sports.
As to boxing, the operative word is "can." And, there is still an official in the ring making judgements moment to moment that influences whether or not a KO may occur.
To: ET(end tyranny)
LOL! Dave Barry is the cat's meow.
To: Serge
BTW discard her votes completely from russian and canadian score and see what happens.Ummm... that's what they *did.* That gave four first place ordinals to each pair.
Now, what was the point again?
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