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Santa Barbara Libertarians help win Boy Scout discrimination fight
LP News ^ | February | LP

Posted on 02/15/2002 6:50:19 AM PST by DoSomethingAboutIt

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To: untenured; Smile-n-Win
Do "people" have the "right" to determine that landlords and employers in fact don't have the right to rent to and hire whom they choose?

Racial discrimination in housing and employment is illegal.

81 posted on 02/18/2002 2:37:28 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe;tpaine
>> Do "people" have the "right" to determine that landlords and employers in fact don't have the right to rent to and hire whom they choose?

> Racial discrimination in housing and employment is illegal.

This is the point I was trying to make. The wolves have eaten the sheep, no matter what the Constitution says about eating sheep.

And I don't think they'll quit. Next, they'll make it illegal for White men to refuse to marry Black women. Then, it will be agains the law for White men to refuse to marry Black MEN!! As long as they control the media, they can force anything on us. They can even get the Constitution itself repealed if they want to!

That is, as long as they are more powerful than we are. It's all up to US.

82 posted on 02/19/2002 1:28:43 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Smile-n-Win
I would tend to agree with you - the strongest is going to win, and we that believe in freedom and liberty are going to have to be the strongest.

This is the point I was trying to make. The wolves have eaten the sheep, no matter what the Constitution says about eating sheep.

Your reply to Roscoe's nonsense hits the mark - and I like the way you put it. The BoR is pretty clear - its not ambiguous. The 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th and 10th amendments have been violated on a daily basis for years, and all because of an apathetic public who are at the mercy of an out of control legal system where lawyers, many of which have no legitimate marketable skill, use chicanery and lies to convince the masses that they serve a purpose that is good for individuals, while only enriching and impowering themselves and their friends.

83 posted on 02/19/2002 4:59:12 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: Smile-n-Win
David Duke?
84 posted on 02/19/2002 5:12:34 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Louis Farrakhan?
85 posted on 02/19/2002 7:19:13 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
"Next, they'll make it illegal for White men to refuse to marry Black women."

You're seconding that?

86 posted on 02/19/2002 7:37:05 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
What were you infering with "David Duke ?"
87 posted on 02/19/2002 7:41:53 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
"Next, they'll make it illegal for White men to refuse to marry Black women."

That's the sort of racist rhetoric David Duke uses. Are you agreeing with it?

88 posted on 02/19/2002 7:44:28 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: freeeee
"Even bigots have rights," he said.

I just love his moral backbone.

89 posted on 02/19/2002 7:46:58 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
Well, he did stand up for the Scout's rights when few others would.

Is that immoral?

90 posted on 02/19/2002 7:51:26 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Roscoe
I don't agree with your opinion on the remark. - Post it in context, and try to prove your point.

You can't & won't, - as usual.

91 posted on 02/19/2002 7:53:29 AM PST by tpaine
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To: freeeee
Is that immoral?

Not that part, just to equate defending the scouts right to practice morality in excluding sexual deviants to defending Larry Flynt's right to print his material.

92 posted on 02/19/2002 7:53:58 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: DoSomethingAboutIt
So the libertarians did something good but for the wrong reasons. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
93 posted on 02/19/2002 7:56:58 AM PST by Khepera
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To: tpaine
"Next, they'll make it illegal for White men to refuse to marry Black women."

What an "interesting" position to take.

94 posted on 02/19/2002 7:58:52 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Cultural Jihad;*SASU; JMJ333; Tourist Guy; EODGUY; proud2bRC; abandon; Khepera; Dakmar; RichInOC...
We are all Bigots because the alternative is to be willing to change your mind on everything at a moments notice and stand up for nothing ever. The liberals are the worst.

big·ot
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

[French, from Old French.]
Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant “an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.” Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense “a superstitious hypocrite.”

A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

95 posted on 02/19/2002 8:03:16 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Texaggie79
"Even bigots have rights," he said. I just love his moral backbone.

-- You're late to the party '79. -- It is already estabished that it takes more backbone to fight for a slimeballs rights that to cheer for the king.

96 posted on 02/19/2002 8:04:39 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
fight for a slimeballs rights

Glad you feel that way about our boyscouts. Is this a common Libertarian opinion you hold?

97 posted on 02/19/2002 8:05:50 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
Libertarians calling the Boy Scouts bigots shouldn't come as a surprise.
98 posted on 02/19/2002 8:08:26 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Cultural Jihad
If a landlord doesn't want to rent to these people, he should have that right. If an employer doesn't want to hire them, he should have that right, too. But when the ideologues chime in on how people have no right to determine what kind of a society they are to live in and what the laws should say....then we part company.

What if 51% of the people determine that the type of society they want to live in includes a landlord being forced to rent to certain individuals, or an employer being forced to hire certain people against his will, or one that restricts your right to practice your religion? Don't these types of laws constitute the very principals you advocate -- people determining what kind of society they want to live in?

100 posted on 02/19/2002 8:09:06 AM PST by BillofRights
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