NRA Will Take Shays-Meehan Bill To Supreme Court If It Passes

CNSNews.com ^ | 2/13/02 | Jeff Johnson

[Rensselaer]

Not to reverse myself - cause I still think Bush doesn't veto - but you're right that Mason was great today and helped him. I'll bet the other GOP commissioners, Darrell Wold and Brad Smith, will join Mason. Smith has a whole book out - Unfree Speech - calling campaign finance reform unconstitutional. So just maybe...

[mutchdutch]

In a devious way does this tend to encourage more money directly to the Political parties instead of 3rd parties...........follow the money. Why wouldn't our politician like to see the pass, get rid of competition.

[harpo11]

Bump and Roll....

Either we are to believe that Congress is inhabited by a bunch of morons so unfit for representing We The People and so lacking in intellect to understand the meaning of the First Amendment or they all are a bunch of corrupt crooks hellbent on a specious ignoble disasterous attack against the very essence of our God given rights protected by the Constitution for which generations of Americans have sacrificed their lives in the defense of Liberty.

So Congress, what's it to be? Moreover, if you were so concerned about current Campaign Finance Laws, why didn't you prosecute Clinton/Gore's underhanded unlawful campaign funding?

[hchutch]

Bush has given the CFR folks enough rope to hang themselves with. I think Shays, McCain, Gephardt, Daschle, Feingold, and Meehan thought that they could bully him into whatever they could run through, so they tried to stack the deck.

Well, they got caught cheating. Bush now has what he needs to finally shoot things down, and then tell them what he wants. And you can bet that he will lay down the law firmly.

McCain will be called in, as will Shays, and Bush will tell them, "I trusted that you'd come up with something fair, and you let this crap get attached instead. Guess what, it's going back with a veto, and I'm also going to spell out what I WILL sign."

Bush has an advantage in the fact that his opposition has again overextended itself, and he can now lay out his alternative, which he will describe as a "fair deal." Soft money will take a hit, but he's going to rip them to shreds, IMHO. Believe me, there's enough of a smoking gun here that CFR will be very dead when Bush is done with it.

[Trailer Trash]

I would like to take this opportunity to admit that in the past on this forum I've bashed various political action groups for hiding behind the robes of a judge.

Today I thank god for the judicial branch in the tree of liberty.

If this thing sticks it's all over. Everything.......

[gumbo]

time to run a decent challenger against that dirtbag Shays!There has to be someone in Greenwich that take this jerk on!

I thought Ann Coulter was thinking of running against Shays. Whatever happened with that?

[Fireone]

You're correct. The NRA is our best voice in the battle to protect and restore the Constitution as the law of the land. As members, we have a strong political voice and, "when we speak, they listen". Please urge friends and family members to join or renew their membership.

[Howlin]

Gephardt?

[Howlin]

George W. Bush is not the least bit worried about John McCain.

Haven't you noticed? Nobody cares about CFR.

[kattracks]

FEC Chairman Says Shays-Meehan is 'Unworkable' And 'Unenforceable'

[virgil]

I have not heard any of the liberal political action groups complaining about this bill. Whats in it for them? There's got to be something wrong with it if they're not complaining.

[JWinNC]

BUMP! GO NRA GO!

[rwfromkansas]

No kidding. Folks, when you go to bed tonight, PRAY....pray for our country, pray for our liberty, pray that God will help us remove the wolve's in sheeps clothing in our govt. Pray we will grow more moral as a nation. Above all, pray God will give Bush the courage to veto and then give a veto speech to the American people. Pray. And then tomorrow, FIGHT. Fight by calling the WH, faxing the WH, doing ANYTHING to get your message across to them if this bill passes which is now almost a given. I will personally put together an action thread if nobody else will tomorrow.....this is an emergency situation for our Republic. Frankly, I am neglecting somewhat my schoolwork due to this today....so I will be up rather late working on homework. To think that our government would vote to only allow certain kinds of donations....when everyone should have the right to express themselves as they wish....is just horrid. And then to let the media with a free pass and the unions a way to get around the bill!!!!!! I have not been this angry in a very long time....I do not cuss much, but quite frankly, it is to the point I just about want to let the F word fly.

[joeyman]

I have not heard any of the liberal political action groups complaining about this bill.

Why should they? This bill gives great power to the mainstream press (guess how they vote) while stopping conservatives from spending money when it really counts (ie 60 days before an election). Also, I'll just bet the version that passes lets unions spend money during the blackout period; such money will disproportionately go to the dems.

[rwfromkansas]

Actually, some have been.....even I think.....the ACLU. I remember reading about this on a different thread.

[Mr. Bungle]

"I have not heard any of the liberal political action groups complaining about this bill. Whats in it for them? "

Favorable coverage in the press, like always, but now without the risk of their opponents paying for rebuttals in advertisements. It will cut their operating costs dramatically. If the press were truly impartial, every single liberal advocacy group would be fighting right alongside the NRA on this.

[sasquatch]

Is everyone's NRA membership up to date?

Be careful whom you align with.
NRA's position on CARA was horsesh!t.
They caved on property rights. I'll not renew.

[harpseal]

an "electioneering blackout" provision that would ban most third parties from using the name of a federal candidate for 30 days prior to a primary election and 60 days prior to a general election.

Robert Mugabe would love this provision for his March elections. Mow let us presume this passes andthe Supreme Court has yet to rule said staute unconstitutional and people are arrested for opposing candidates who are against the Secoond Amendment. The resultant Civil war would be an absolute disaster. By depriving enough people of the chance to make their case to the publiv enough would be radicalized that the blood in the dtreets would soon become a river. In short this legislation is a bomb that will destroy our nation. It does not even have to be upheld by the Supreme Court to cause its havoc merely to be subject to prolonged litigation while it is still being enforced.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[Paul C. Jesup]

Wow. Looks like the NRA is branching out on their issues. Now if we could just get them to speak out on Amendments 3 through 10.

[Paul C. Jesup]

BUMP FOR FREEDOM!!

No matter how corrupt this country's government has become, I have always viewed free speech as a pressure valve that has kept this country from erupting like a volcano.

Now, if the politicians, media and unions want to close that pressure value, then they do so at their own peril.

Now, if the bill gets passed into law then come mid-August (when this law is suppose to kick in) and the people of this nation have realized what the politicians, media and unions have done.

Well I wouldn't be surprised if there was open rebellion by December or January.