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Daschle: Stimulus Bill Appears Dead
AP ^ | 2/5/02 | CURT ANDERSON

Posted on 02/05/2002 11:08:12 AM PST by finnman69

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To: ableChair
OOOOOOHHHHHHHHH,

I see. Daschle isn't 'pulling' his version, but is preventing the Senate from voting on the Bush-sponsored version. He isn't 'pulling' anything. I didn't get that until I saw some talking heads on foxnews. I guess no one in the press wants to make it sound like Daschles fault, so they're characterizing it in an obfuscated manner.
201 posted on 02/05/2002 2:51:37 PM PST by ableChair
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Re: Jeffords: I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- What do we expect of from a senator who represents a state famous for its sap.
202 posted on 02/05/2002 2:52:35 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
LOL!!!
203 posted on 02/05/2002 2:54:44 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: finnman69; All
I'm currently writing a book about Daschle and his socialist allies...due out this spring.

Anybody here with good stuff concerning 'the Short One', or his leftwing compatriots, give me a shout at shortdaschle04@aol.com

204 posted on 02/05/2002 2:57:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Mudboy Slim
"Republicans should make the Dems fillibuster. Wouldn't that be great? What with a war and a weak economy, the American people could watch Robert Byrd expound on a whole host of worthless subjects. Come on Trent, force Dasshole's hand."

If you expect anything brave out of the limp minority leaders,
then you are in for a major dissapointment.

205 posted on 02/05/2002 2:59:20 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: itsahoot
What ever you call it, it can not be called a rebate. The tax rate did not change, so you will pay the same amount as you would have before. The $500.00 can in no way be called a rebate.

THe tax rate did not change for 2001 (but it did change for 2002). In lieu of a lower tax rate you either get a refund check during the year or you get one when you file. Either way your taxes are lower by 300 - 600 this year.

Let me give you another example of a tax return I did this year of young man who had no taxes in 2000 but had taxes at regular rates of 900 in 2001. In 2001 his normal tax was calculated at 15%. Because he did not receive a refund the year during the 2001 year he was able to lower the tax due by 300.

Twist all you want, your taxes are lower this year due to the refund.

206 posted on 02/05/2002 3:03:06 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Wphile
"Come on Trent, force Dasshole's hand."

Trent lott couldn't force a feather through the Holland tunnel, mainly because he is without a spine. Just like 7 UP never had it, never will

207 posted on 02/05/2002 3:03:43 PM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: ableChair, ALL
You are confused. Check The AP story for all the nasty details.

3 Democratic Senators are ready to support President Bush's bill which gives it enough votes to pass on regular rules.

But the HEAD RAT DASCHLE refuses to allow regular rules - saying there will be a filibuster - which will require 61 votes to overcome - which the Bush bill does not have.

The DASCHLE RAT BILL HAS LESS THAN 51 votes!!!! So it would not pass under any circumstances - so it is dead as doornail.

But what this means is that tax cuts will not be accelerated, the real estate (death tax) elimination WILL NOT BE MADE PERMANENT - SOMETHING THE SOCIALIST/MARXISTS WILL NEVER AGREE TO AS LONG AS THEY HOLD AMERICAN TAXPAYERS BY THE THROAT - and there will be no tax refund for lower wage earner as proposed in the Bush plan. Also, due to this tyranny, there will be NOTHING FOR BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR TAX BURDEN!! Both plans would extend unemployment benefits for 13 weeks - but with the Dasshole action - that will not happen - not with this bill. The Rat plan, (the one without the votes to pass either way it goes) would NOT give businesses as big a tax break, would NOT repeal the death tax permanently, would NOT give a tax refund to lower income wage earners, and would add increased funding for medicaid to the states.

NOW YOU DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT AND MAKE THE PHONE CALLS ABOUT WHAT YOU STAND FOR OR AGAINST!

I realize it is late - and the Congressional switch board may not be open - but people have posted the direct phone numbers above and maybe some good soul will do so here now. If you call direct office phone numbers, you can leave messages!

If they don't hear from us, I can guarantee they will think, ho hum, what does it matter. They DO need to know it matters!!!!

ONce more - let's get this straight for any still in the dark.

The RATS WANT AMERICANS TO BE IN ECONOMIC PAIN!

THEY THINK YOUR PAIN, THEIR GAIN!

And, further, FOR THEM IT IS A WIN WIN WIN because they do not want you to be able to pass what you have worked a lifetime to earn on to your children without the STATE taking as much of it as possible - half or more. Maybe you don't care about that - cause once you're gone, you could care less.

But, unless you think all those years of your life's work were for the benefit of the poor in Bangladesh - you had better care - or were so you could pay for Bill Clinton's New York Estate for the rest of his life - with your hard earned life's savings - you should make those phone calls.

Bottom line: TAX CUTS ARE ALWAYS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY AND FOR INDIVIDUAL AMERICANS! ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS!

Dashle and Hellary would rather Americans SUFFER than allow taxPAYERS to be able to keep one cent more than they already can keep!

This is basic communism, folks. It is what they live, breathe, and get their jollies doing - taking YOUR MONEY!

If you LIKE that, if you ENJOY being robbed at gunpoint by Hellary and her crew, then just sit there, and let your fingers type away, and never make a phone call......and you get what you deserve!

208 posted on 02/05/2002 3:05:58 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: SERE_DOC
WE need Sen Zell Miller of Georgia as majority leader, he knows what the nation needs (he had the personal courage last year to break with Daschle and vote for the Bush tax reductions). Daschle only looks to pay off the racial, ethnic, gender and parasite groups that are the Democrat base.
209 posted on 02/05/2002 3:11:35 PM PST by wilmington2
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To: itsahoot
"Gee I wonder how all that trash got to be law during Lott's tenure?"

Easy. Because Trent Lott is a doofus.

But you already knew that...

210 posted on 02/05/2002 3:14:34 PM PST by okie01
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To: okie01
Maybe if Trent Lott only shared more power with the Rats, they would be nicer to us.
211 posted on 02/05/2002 3:17:56 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Memo to DashHole:

My dear rodent-like, ill fitting toupee wearing vermin.

When next you hear "Let's Roll!," it will be over your sorry behind.

212 posted on 02/05/2002 3:22:03 PM PST by TheGoodDoc
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Now, granted, I have no idea what the popular press is talking about regarding this matter and have only figured out what's going on at a surface level, but the link you provided provides no additional information, as you imply.
213 posted on 02/05/2002 3:22:09 PM PST by ableChair
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To: KQQL
The issue is reducing taxes - for individuals and for businesses. The pscyhological boost would be tremendous - just by itself. The tax cuts are ALWAYS a boost for the economy. EVERY DAY is a good day for a tax cut. THAT is what this is about. If the RATS refuse to cut taxes in the face of a definite economic downturn (and if you don't think we're in a downturn, you aren't paying attention. By the way - the Enron/Global Crossings debacle is not the end of the disasters getting ready to hit. What will you say when the unemployment rate hits 10% or higher?????? THAT is where we are going unless sanity returns. THAT is what the RATS WANT TO HAPPEN so as many Americans as possible can be IN PAIN = and so the few people who hold the economy against President Bush and the Repubs will (with the help of the media puppets marching to their Rat Master's beats) be blamed for it. OR DO YOU FORGET CLINTON IN '92 TO BUSH 1: THE WORST ECONOMY IN 50 YEARS!

For crying out loud, I cannot understand conservatives on this site who do not understand what this is about...sorry...but I cannot.

This is a war. We are in a death struggle with those who want to see as many Americans OUT OF WORK AS POSSIBLE, and as MUCH private wealth confiscated as possible and as many businesses bankrupt as possible - AS LONG AS THEY IMAGINE THEIR POWER WILL BE ENHANCED AND ENLARGED!

If you doubt this - if you think this is simply politics as usual - you have not been paying attention.

214 posted on 02/05/2002 3:22:57 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: ableChair
What are you looking for - what information do you seek? Please spell it out.
215 posted on 02/05/2002 3:23:43 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Will an email to our Senators do? This is what I just sent: Dear Ms. Boxer, I know it is useless to ask you, but since your constituents (remember us?) are having a bit of a hard time, and we and the businesses that employ us need a bit of STIMULUS, could you please tell your colleague Daschle to get the bill moving -- and could you please vote for it? Oh, I know, positioning the Democratic party at the expense of the American worker is your priority. It is really too bad that you are happy to sacrifice us so that your party will have an 'issue' to use in the election. I know your answer, just wanted to be on record as supporting the stimulus bill. Sincerely, Jerez Californian and Former Democrat
216 posted on 02/05/2002 3:26:43 PM PST by Jerez
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To: TheGoodDoc
"When next you hear "Let's Roll!," it will be over your sorry behind."

Yes, but

If we do not get off our duffs, stop the typing, make those phone calls to the individual Senators offices - if not tonight - thEn tomorrow - by the thousands - we can simply sit and watch the economy hit the tank and thousands more Americans hit the unemployment line!

Further, der FurherHellaryDasshole WINS and the AMERICAN TAXPAYERS and BUSINESSES LOSE (which means, employees of those businesses lose!)

Is that something any Freeper in good standing wants to allow to happen if they can have any impact at all? And, believe me, phone calls DO impact these Senators no matter what anybody has told you!

217 posted on 02/05/2002 3:28:26 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: finnman69
My fellow FReepers, this is a wonderful thing. Let Lil' Tommy take the bash for a failing economy. It's there,...he won't allow Americans to have more of THEIR money. The D'asshole is fighting this war wrong, and the American people are seeing it.

We have pushed the socialists into a corner, and they don't like it.

Just let the American People see this for what it is!

218 posted on 02/05/2002 3:50:51 PM PST by timydnuc
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To: finnman69
"It's with great regret I will pull the bill tomorrow,"

I don't care what the senator does behind closed doors with the former president. Both are consenting adults.
219 posted on 02/05/2002 3:54:08 PM PST by Bars4Bill
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Exactly right. The Dems care only for power,To hell with the Country.

Mr. President, tell the people.

220 posted on 02/05/2002 4:01:32 PM PST by Vinnie
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