From your link, after I fought my way there. Second Try at a Link.
Note to Sparky: the above is not a unicellular of any sort and it is Precambrian.
Posted on 01/26/2002 1:14:46 PM PST by Paul Ross
Not only are you guilty of reading this thread, but of multiple postings. What should we believe? (Is the Super Bowl started yet?)
I've notice before how much Creation Science is quote science. No wonder it's also an oxymoron.
That sun explanation is a theory NOT fact:
Whew!
The decision as to which presupposition leads to the most logical and self-consistent system of interpretation must necessarily be based on statistical arguments, and these are notoriously subjective in nature. Thus, in the last analysis, it is a spiritual and moral decision rather than a scientific decision.And what that means, ol' sparky, is that Morris believes reality to be a matter of subjective choice. The world is what it is, sparky. We may wish it otherwise, as Morris does, but our wishes don't matter. If we literally think that our wishes can shape the universe to conform to our personal fantasies, we are insane -- as Morris is. Don't follow that guy. He'll lead you to Jonestown.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-thermodynamics.html
To create any kind of upward, complex organization in a closed system requires outside energy and outside information. Evolutionists maintain that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics does not prevent Evolution on Earth, since this planet receives outside energy from the Sun. Thus, they suggest that the Sun's energy helped create the life of our beautiful planet. However, is the simple addition of energy all that is needed to accomplish this great feat?
Compare a living plant with a dead one. Can the simple addition of energy make a completely dead plant live?
A dead plant contains the same basic structures as a living plant. It once used the Sun's energy to temporarily increase its order and grow and produce stems, leaves, roots, and flowers - all beginning from a single seed.
If there is actually a powerful Evolutionary force at work in the universe, and if the open system of Earth makes all the difference, why does the Sun's energy not make a truly dead plant become alive again (assuming a sufficient supply of water, light, and the like)?
What actually happens when a dead plant receives energy from the Sun? The internal organization in the plant decreases; it tends to decay and break apart into its simplest components. The heat of the Sun only speeds the disorganization process.
As a minor contribution against your claim that the PreCambrian fossil record is devoid of complex organisms I present the following. Perhaps you need to confront curators at the University of Oslo:
Palenotological Museum, University of Oslo, Norway
I urge you to look at this link. The specimins displayed look remarkably like complex organisms to me.
What IS "lame and absurd" is you inability to deal with the fact that not only have I cleary explained how a hurricane represents a concentration of energy and is thus a localized decrease in entropy of the molecules in the Hurricane, bought and paid for at the expense of an even greater increase in the entropy of the surroundings of the hurricane, but so did Professor Lambert, who has a Ph.D. in Chemistry.
What IS "lame and absurd" is your complete inability to grasp anything anyone has attempted to communicate to you during this entire thread.
What IS "lame and absurd" is your compulsive posting of "out-of-context" quotes, as exposed by "ThinkPlease" not once, but TWICE on this thread, and which are intended solely for the purpose of misrepresenting the intent of their original authors.
What IS "lame and absurd" is your serial misrepresentation of what others have written on this thread.
What IS "lame and absurd" is your obnoxious juvenile behavior in making ad hominem attacks on others who disagree with you, utilizing cretinous terminology such as "moron", "idiot," "fool," and many other childish characterizations.
..... That does not result in a decrease in entropy on the planet or in the universe.
No one said it did, Sparky. Stop listening to the pink elephants, or "medved's" psychic parrot, or whatever the source is of those voices you are hearing in your head, and start READING and comprehending what was actually written.
Nor does the result of a hurricane lead to more order, rather disorder.
That's right, Sparky; the total entropy of the Hurricane and its environment goes UP! But as you have already admitted, the 2LoT allows for localized entropy decreases to occur so long as the total entropy of the system and its surroundings increases. As I have explained, as "VadeRetro" has explained, as Prof. Lambert has explained, the hurricane TEMPORARILY concentrates energy it gets from the surroundings, leading to an TEMPORARY entropy DECREASE, manifested in the organized structure of the hurricane, while the surrounding environment is experiencing an even greater INCREASE in entropy from the heat being diffused by the process that forms the hurricane.
What IS "lame and absurd" is your utter, complete, an total inability to grasp this.
How about Harvard scientist Dr. John Ross (not a creationist) affirms:
“...there are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated [closed] systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems ... there is somehow associated with the field of far-from equilibrium phenomena the notion that the second law of thermodynamics fails for such systems. It is important to make sure that this error does not perpetuate itself.” [Dr. John Ross, Harvard scientist (evolutionist), Chemical and Engineering News, vol. 58, July 7, 1980, p. 40]
From your link, after I fought my way there. Second Try at a Link.
Note to Sparky: the above is not a unicellular of any sort and it is Precambrian.
Precambrian.
Compare with a trilobite:
Servantes would be very proud of you.
If the sun negates the effects of the Second Law on life, then are you willingly to lay out in the sun during daylight hours this summer? The sun doesn't exactly have positive effect on the paint job of a car, either. The sun increases the decomposition of an animal carcass.
The energy from the sun, if anything, speeds up disorder and increases etropy in regard to life forms.
If you would even bother to look for the original source instead of a bunch of creationist pap you would realize that this is a designed omission of some of the original text and meaning. See:
Entropy is increasing on this planet. Physical systems -- including life -- are becoming more disorderly. And you haven't got a shred of scientific proof to refute that.
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