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Inventor Says He's Found Free Energy
IOL ^ | 1-22-2002 | Kevin Smith

Posted on 01/22/2002 5:43:47 AM PST by blam

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To: MarkWar
The siphon takes a tiny amount of input energy -- sometimes called the suck -- and uses that to induce a gradient into a "system" where that gradient hadn't existed. Once the gradient is in place, the siphon can "generate" power so long as an imbalance exists across the gradient....

This is worth posting about because it's entirely possible that so-called "free energy" machines may be built around similar principles.

Check out "The Gods Themselves" by Asimov. It's been 25 years since I read it, but it's partially based on the idea of an "electron pump" which siphons particles between two parallel universes, thereby generating free enregy for both. Sounds like it was based on the idea you describe.


61 posted on 01/22/2002 6:51:04 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: HIDEK6
Yes, but what happens when the upsadaisium runs out?

The spent upsadaisium rods are coated with Cavorite and float off into space, where they are turned into fresh upsadaisium by an upsadaisium-powered upsadaisium reprocessing machine.

62 posted on 01/22/2002 6:53:22 AM PST by Grut
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To: blam
Some of you posters are exactly what’s wrong with this world. I’ll bet if you had been here when the wheel had been invented you’d have said “Og, wheelthing is bad. Goes against the Gods.”

Remember “Fulton’s Folly?” This may not be the Holy Grail of energy yet but that day WILL surely come.

63 posted on 01/22/2002 6:55:39 AM PST by InkStone
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To: Palmetto
Chances are, the fool arrived at 4.5kW from the amount of power required to accelerate the flywheel,

I doubt he is the fool. He has us writing about him, not the other way around.

64 posted on 01/22/2002 6:57:25 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: lelio; patent
Will the patent office redirect all claims involving perpetual motion machines to the trashbin?

They will ask for a working model (not normally a requirement).

My understanding is that they will reject the application as not being "useful" or inoperative. However frankly I have never filed such an application so I don't have any firsthand knowledge. (Patent, jump in any time)

65 posted on 01/22/2002 6:57:45 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Sabertooth
>Check out "The Gods Themselves" by Asimov.

Yeah, that was a good one.

I've always thought it was strange that so many nuts & bolts types react so, um, passionately to so-called free-energy devices when a hardcore guy like Asimov presented a rather straightforward explanation for the phenom a long time ago.

(Although, to be honest, the thing I remember _most_ about the book was how the alternate universe beings would, umm, gratify themselves by making two tendrils infinitely thin and then passing the tips through each other back and forth...)

Mark W.

66 posted on 01/22/2002 6:58:52 AM PST by MarkWar
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To: blam
If the Jasker men really are onto something, it could be the most important Irish invention since Guinness.

The first invention was supplied in vast quantities to the witnesses of the experiment.

These keep appearing when News is in short supply. Just another False Energy Messiah, Move along, nothing to see.

67 posted on 01/22/2002 6:59:40 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: HappyGal; aculeus

Sure, he keeps going and going and going . . .

68 posted on 01/22/2002 7:02:04 AM PST by dighton
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To: MarkWar
...to be honest, the thing I remember _most_ about the book was how the alternate universe beings would, umm, gratify themselves...

If you'll recall, they were simultaneously trisexual and single entities.


69 posted on 01/22/2002 7:03:25 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: blam
I don't think this is so far fetched. When I used to drink, many a time the room started spinning all by itself, and kept spinning.
Now, can I interest anybody in theses little pellets that, when put in your gas tank, will increase your gas mileage by 100000% ?
70 posted on 01/22/2002 7:04:01 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: Grut
If you open up his device you will probably find dilithium crystals. That is the prefered source of power for 8 out of 10 starships...
71 posted on 01/22/2002 7:04:23 AM PST by SirChas
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To: blam
Wasn't Enron operating under the same principle ?
72 posted on 01/22/2002 7:06:24 AM PST by tubebender
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To: AndrewC
I doubt he is the fool. He has us writing about him, not the other way around.

Writing about the nameless guy is one thing....investing in a scheme which is either intentionally deceptive or, at best, hopelessly misguided is another thing altogether.

Regardless, the 4.5kW statement is an eye-catcher. It's an easy tip-off that there's an an energy-storing device in the washing machine, rather than some more ingenious scheme. In other words, he lets on that he's intentionally deceptive.

73 posted on 01/22/2002 7:08:37 AM PST by Palmetto
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To: HIDEK6
hey, no rolie-polie-olie-isms allowed on this thread
74 posted on 01/22/2002 7:09:42 AM PST by wafflehouse
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To: blam
With world oil reserves running down

If this were the case the price of oil would be rising instead of falling. I cannot recall the name of the scientist who argues this, but there is a persuasive theory that hydrocarbons are NOT a product of decomposed fossil material. Instead they are being steadily replenished from deep inside the earth. The proven existence of hydrocarbons everywhere in the observable universe is one clue that supports his theories. If eventually established to be true, it will completely undercut much of what the left preaches about the need for expensive conversion to "renewable" energy sources and conservation in general.

As far as "free energy" is concerned, I'll remain skeptical pending further evidence. However, Quantum Mechanics can lead to some very bizarre theoretical results and conventional scientific knowledge is always prone to being overturned.

Who knows, I've heard it said that the latent static electrical energy in the Earth's atmosphere amounts to many times what is produced by all the power stations in existence. Maybe John Galt's motor from Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" wasn't such a crazy idea after all.

75 posted on 01/22/2002 7:09:51 AM PST by katana
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To: physicist; longshadow; radioastronomer; vaderetro; thinkplease
Wierd science bump.
76 posted on 01/22/2002 7:13:13 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: MarkWar
I've always thought it was strange that so many nuts & bolts types react so, um, passionately to so-called free-energy devices when a hardcore guy like Asimov presented a rather straightforward explanation for the phenom a long time ago.

Most practical engineers will leap to the defense of the 1st and 2nd LOT when challenged, because we have to operate under their limitations everyday. Asimov is a classic example of someone proposing a free-energy source who doesn't actually have to apply his theorem to any practical use other than selling books.

In short, some goober in an outhouse is not going to violate the laws of thermodynamics.

As someelse put so eloquently, there ain't no such thing as free energy. Hear it, love it, live it.

77 posted on 01/22/2002 7:15:30 AM PST by Palmetto
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To: blam
My father tells a story about listening to the radio as a child. There was a scientist on the radio who was explaining why aircraft could never go faster than the speed of sound. It seems that the faster you go the thicker the air effectively gets, so to get anywhere near the speed of sound a person would have to mount great chainsaws on the wings to cut through the clumps of air that would be hitting the aircraft...
78 posted on 01/22/2002 7:16:40 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: freedomlover
However, it got real quiet when I disconnected the alternator belt and the thing went 50% further.

Eureka!!! The belt was 180 out-of-phase! Quick...turn the belt around.

79 posted on 01/22/2002 7:16:44 AM PST by TheDeacon
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To: blam
It is quite possibly the most significant invention since the wheel

Um... didn't they say that about Ginger, too? *yawn*

80 posted on 01/22/2002 7:19:53 AM PST by austinTparty
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