Posted on 01/20/2002 5:02:48 PM PST by CCWoody
I just don't see what supposed to be so bad about it. Care to help me out?
My Greatest Crime and my Greatest Hope for I am guilty with the Blood of Christ and I am covered with the Blood of Christ. And I will freely confess that not only was all my sin against the image of God, but my sin was againt Him and Him alone. Moreover, in my blood lust, I am even guilty of His death.
My Crime and Hope: covered with the Blood.
Jacob chose to believe in God. God knew that it would be Jacob that would believe and therfore that is why he was chosen. Esau could not repent because he could not grasp the spiritual having chosen his entire life to live in the fleshy.
If God both draws and hardens, then He is truly the author of our faith.
He draws all men (Jn.12:32) and 'hardens' those who reject Him.(2Thess.2:11-12).
Even so, come Lord Jesus
I simply mean I have found many elements of good philosophy in many sources. I just happen to reject the magical beans, as it were.
If God selected those who He would save in advance, then how could he have a love relationship with those he selected. Love is not something you can make others do, it must be their other person's decision to love or return the love given to them. God will not make someone love Him. He extends His offer of love to all and braciously accepts those into His fellowship who ask Jesus into their hearts.
Calvin may have been a tremedous scholar, but he was personally a very miserable man in his private life. His life was not filled with real joy, at least from what I have read.
Too many hops for me; and it is a Colorado beer! I'm with "Doc"; Shiner is my cheap brew of choice. Have you tried Pete's Wicked Ale?
I was waiting for this! Here we now find that all men are free (free only to die in their sins), so the Calvinist can maintain that there is no contradiction between those verses that say 'whosoever' and Calvinism.
See, when you cannot reconcile Scripture you just change the meaning of words, so 'free' means not really free (you after, totally dead) what it means is you as a sinner are doing what you choose to do.
This is ofcourse, true but begs the question why are some chosen and some not? This defense of 'freedom' is nothing but smoke and mirrors, intended to confuse the issue. The word 'freedom' in Calvinism, like the word Love, has no real meaning.
Even so, come Lord Jesus
You are going to give Woody a heart-attack. I have been telling him that for months!
Even so, come Lord Jesus
Your blunt declaration that my brief exchange of charitable repartee with a good friend (who does drink beer) numerically overwhelms the substantive doctrinal comments I have made on this thread shows me that you are in a deeper mess than I had realized.
You are looking for every conceivable "excuse" to avoid facing the doctrinal points which the Calvinistic Christians have made on this thread. You are therefore not so holy after all.
I will charitably hope that you are regenerate, but I will no longer assume that you are. Under the circumstances, I will not respond to you any more.
But you still need to think about #73. It is, after all, the point of the thread.
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Aside to Doctor Doom: Learn real Christianity from OP. Just don't assume that he is condoning drunkenness any more than I would. He's not.
I thought what I said was common knowledge. I'll check on a few sources and get back with you on that.
And If I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.(Jn.12:32)
Even so, come Lord Jesus
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